21 Jan 05
Originally posted by RBHILL"you sent yourself to hell you are the only one who can." -RBHILL
You are already lost without Christ. If people are like Ivanhoe then less people would be saved, because you dont see him preaching to save people.
Don't miss the passage that your fellow fundie quoted.
"And fear not them which kill the body,but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
MATTHEW 10:28" -quoted by blindfaith101.
I've read the bible, and I know that blindfaith101 missed a key capitalization. (surprise, surprise!) The original text reads "...but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both body and soul in hell". The capital "H" in "Him" indicates God. (Yet so many of the fundies here think that capitalization and spelling don't matter!) In other words, GOD is the only one with the power to send people to hell.
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RBHILL mocked brother Edwin's spelling...
"No, I am not jeleious because you say you have never sinned that is a lie. But yes you have never ((sind)<------ LOL) but you have Sinned."
...then came up with this:
"If you have ever masterbaited you have sinned. Now I now I will get lots of recs for this. Because every man has masterbaited." -RBHILL
Hmm, still 0 recs...what happened? How can you mock anyone's spelling if you don't know how to spell masturbate? You sound like you're faulting a man for being really good at fishing. 😛
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"No you reject Christ. Just like in O.T. time when they rejected people like the O.T. Prophets they rejected God. You are lost that is way you think you reject Blindfaith101, but you are really rejecting God." -RBHILL
Convenient. You can say any idiotic thing you like, and if anyone calls you on it, you just reply "Take it up with god!".
21 Jan 05
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Originally posted by BigDoggProblemJohn 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's WRATH REMAINS on him.”
"you sent yourself to hell you are the only one who can." -RBHILL
Don't miss the passage that your fellow fundie quoted.
"[i]And fear not them which kill the body,but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear hi ...[text shortened]... f anyone calls you on it, you just reply "Take it up with god!".
See so without Christ you will remain in punishment. God's wrath is on you till you come to Christ.
21 Jan 05
Originally posted by RBHILLRB, one of the themes I am hearing from the "opposition" on these threads is that it may be possible to "be in Christ" with respect to one's behaviors and attitudes even while not being a "Christian." Does this make sense to you?
John 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's WRATH REMAINS on him.”
See so without Christ you will remain in punishment. God's wrath is on you till you come to Christ.
Let me try giving you a tangible example and ask you and Blindfaith to respond. I am hearing a lot from a couple of people on TV who are alarmed that Sponge Bob and the Teletubbies are promoting a homosexual agenda. These are "Christians." I am also hearing a lot about some secular oganizations who are feeding the poor, clothing the naked and trying to bring justice to the world. Is this not the Lord's work? I look forward to a thoughtful response.
22 Jan 05
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemIf THE WORD OF GOD is not important in your life.It is very easy to understand how you and all others feel. But the truth is you and all other unbelievers are not rejecting what I and all other Believers are saying. You are rejecting GOD.
"you sent yourself to hell you are the only one who can." -RBHILL
Don't miss the passage that your fellow fundie quoted.
"[i]And fear not them which kill the body,but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
M ...[text shortened]... idiotic thing you like, and if anyone calls you on it, you just reply "Take it up with god!".
I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.And if any man hear my words, and believe them not: for I come not to judge the world, but to save the world.He that rejected me,and recieveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day MATTHEW 12:46-48
22 Jan 05
Originally posted by kirksey957Where it say that in THE WORD OF GOD. All those are very good things, but are these people saved.Have they acceptted or rejected CHRIST.
RB, one of the themes I am hearing from the "opposition" on these threads is that it may be possible to "be in Christ" with respect to one's behaviors and attitudes even while not being a "Christian." Does this make sense to you?
Let me try giving you a tangible example and ask you and Blindfaith to respond. I am hearing a lot from a couple of ...[text shortened]... g justice to the world. Is this not the Lord's work? I look forward to a thoughtful response.
Jesus saith unto himI am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the father, but by me. If you have known me, ye should have know mu Father also: and from henceforth ye know him and have seen him. JOHN 14: 6,7
22 Jan 05
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Originally posted by blindfaith101Oh, but I am rejecting what you and your fundie friends are saying, and I reject your idea of god also. It is possible for me to reject both.
But the truth is you and all other unbelievers are not rejecting what I and all other Believers are saying. You are rejecting GOD.
I submit that it is not possible for you to know so much about god. The bible was written by mortal men. They share your limitation. A being that powerful could lie to you and you would not be able to see through it. Thus, even if you allow for God to exist, it cannot be proven that the bible is true.
You are trapped. It is not possible for you to critically examine your own belief, or you would be labelled a 'doubting Thomas' by your fundie friends. You are deprived of the ability to think for yourself or speak for yourself. I am sure that you will respond to this post with yet more bible quotations. But be warned - I was a christian for 20 years and I probably know the bible better than you do.
22 Jan 05
Originally posted by RBHILLSo you agree that it is God who chooses to cast people into hell. The bible claims that "God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son". So God is revealed to be a sadist who offers his own for a blood sacrifice because he cannot tolerate even the slightest wrong done. Is that justice? Isn't god guilty of murder for killing an innocent? Would you let someone like Andrea Yates off the hook if she claimed she was saving children across america for their sins?
See so without Christ you will remain in punishment. God's wrath is on you till you come to Christ.
22 Jan 05
Originally posted by BigDoggProblemGod is just and can not sin. A creator can't sin. God is the only one who is just in taking a life, but yet is not a lier. out of the Book anatomy of a lie.
So you agree that it is God who chooses to cast people into hell. The bible claims that "God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son". So God is revealed to be a sadist who offers his own for a blood sacrifice because he cannot tolerate even the slightest wrong done. Is that justice? Isn't god guilty of murder for killing an innocent ...[text shortened]... Andrea Yates off the hook if she claimed she was saving children across america for their sins?