@Mott-The-Hoople saidAnd yet you say you're not racist.
what you dont understand is a US manufacturer makes the same product as sony
The US manufacturer has to pay more for workers (hourly wage, benefits etc) and therefore it cost more for US manufacturers to make the product.
Countries like china dont have that overhead as they use slave labor, or pay workers very little.
you claim to be against slavery, think US workers need higher wages, but cant see how this works.
You assume far too much.
What hogwash.
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@sonhouse saidYes it is the consumer who pays the final cost, which incudes tariffs, shipping fees, Longshoremen etc etc. you Are so boring, you keep saying that, when even Susanne and McHill know that. It is boring. Yes, the consumer pays the final cost of the good with everything that has been tacked on including a tariff. Jesus.
@AverageJoe1
Jebesus, I though you were the financial expert here.
It is US citizens who pay for that 'tariff' which is just an up front tax AMERICANS pay for.
If you think otherwise, tell us since you obviously must have a Phd in economics.
That example of Sony just shows the entire exercise is a joke, Sony gets NO punishment as a result of that tariff. AMERICANS are t ...[text shortened]... anyone he can throw under the bus, like I said, he NEVER takes responsibility for his many failures.
So, I am trying to stay with you on this issue. We have a cost of goods, including a tariff. The consumer pays it. What are you trying to say and can you do it without writing words like Ahole?
You Mentioned something about consumers being punished. One is punished for doing something wrong. In our case, the Consumer can walk away and not buy anything. Whew.
Tariffs do not cause loss of jobs. It may shorten the number of TV sets delivered by Sony since we won’t buy them if they’re overpriced. So that is into the world of supply and demand, competition, competition, which causes prices to stay low. You sure do think you can discuss every realm of competition
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@AverageJoe1
So tell me again how that punishes FOREIGNERS? Do you think for instance, a Samsung dish washer is all of a sudden going to be manufactured here in the states?
What planet do you come from again?
Since when is it a good thing that some 4000 or more dollars not in the pockets of each American is now a GOOD thing?
So a Honda costing say 40,000 now costs 8000 more than it did before the assshole trump puts out that 20% tariff.
Tell me again how that is a good thing.
I would have SWORN Trump said he would REDUCE taxes not increase them.
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@sonhouse saidI don’t understand your post, foreigners etc. I know, I hate it too
@AverageJoe1
So tell me again how that punishes FOREIGNERS? Do you think for instance, a Samsung dish washer is all of a sudden going to be manufactured here in the states?
What planet do you come from again?
Since when is it a good thing that some 4000 or more dollars not in the pockets of each American is now a GOOD thing?
So a Honda costing say 40,000 now costs 8000 ...[text shortened]... n how that is a good thing.
I would have SWORN Trump said he would REDUCE taxes not increase them.
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@AverageJoe1
What is YOUR post about? "I hate it too'', hate what?
I ask you again, what foreign company or country does that coming 20% tariff punish?
@sonhouse saidYou see, you do not ask a coherent question. Pretend marauder just checks in. Please explain to marauder your position on tariffs, and what you mean by punishing. Please weave in the concept of competition, the lifeblood of capitalism. Also, that charges and expenses and tariffs are elements of free enterprise.
@AverageJoe1
What is YOUR post about? "I hate it too'', hate what?
I ask you again, what foreign company or country does that coming 20% tariff punish?
I said I hate it too to try to appease your hating tariffs. Note that you continue to get personal with me without simply coming up with a solution of the world of tariffs. Or hell, Simply telling us what you see is the problem.
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@AverageJoe1
Again with the word salad. I asked you what foreign company suffers because of the Trump 20% tariff and you just ramble on without even addressing my question.
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@AverageJoe1 saidThe fact you have no idea speaks volumes to your programmed mind. Enjoy your spoonfuls of Fox and Newsmax as you lose your remaining ability to think.
I have no idea what u r talking about, as relates to my very clear question. No idea. No one will understand what your point is. This is word salad, esp your first para.
So I will again make a point which could be helpful food for thought for, say, Suzianne, who picks up a bit of logic and common sense,…. this Econ point may convince her to vote Trump.
Anyway, fo ...[text shortened]... answer my question, am proven right. I ask A lot of questions which cannot be answered by liberals.
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@kmax87 saidYou write about me personally again. It is faerie-like. Could you better spend your time telling us what Kamala is going to do about the border? Or my pocketbook?
The fact you have no idea speaks volumes to your programmed mind. Enjoy your spoonfuls of Fox and Newsmax as you lose your remaining ability to think.
Geez
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@AverageJoe1
Yes,
And half of America, watch Fox. The other half of America watches the liberal channels. Do you think that when you say that, that you have made a resounding statement that reverberate throughout the Forum?
Just askin’ for the forum
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@AverageJoe1 saidYou have a problem because I respond to you having a dig at me. Are you okay?
You write about me personally again. It is faerie-like. Could you better spend your time telling us what Kamala is going to do about the border? Or my pocketbook?
Geez
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@Mott-The-Hoople saidYour supposed "punitive measure" on China will be paid for BY Americans, and so it becomes a punitive measure against Americans.
what you dont understand is a US manufacturer makes the same product as sony
The US manufacturer has to pay more for workers (hourly wage, benefits etc) and therefore it cost more for US manufacturers to make the product.
Countries like china dont have that overhead as they use slave labor, or pay workers very little.
you claim to be against slavery, think US workers need higher wages, but cant see how this works.
Thanks for nothing.
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@AverageJoe1 saidHalf of America watches Fox and the other half watches non-reactionary channels that happen to be actual news channels, not mere entertainment.
@AverageJoe1
Yes,
And half of America, watch Fox. The other half of America watches the liberal channels. Do you think that when you say that, that you have made a resounding statement that reverberate throughout the Forum?
Just askin’ for the forum
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@AverageJoe1 saidJust answer the freaking question.
You see, you do not ask a coherent question. Pretend marauder just checks in. Please explain to marauder your position on tariffs, and what you mean by punishing. Please weave in the concept of competition, the lifeblood of capitalism. Also, that charges and expenses and tariffs are elements of free enterprise.
I said I hate it too to try to appease your hating tar ...[text shortened]... up with a solution of the world of tariffs. Or hell, Simply telling us what you see is the problem.
Truth is, you want Americans to pay more for products. On top of paying more so those CEOs can afford a bigger jet.
Do you expect to somehow blame that on Kamala too?
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@Suzianne saidThe present administration. As she has done nothing, never got a bill passed etc nor as vp, I don’t blame her.
Just answer the freaking question.
Truth is, you want Americans to pay more for products. On top of paying more so those CEOs can afford a bigger jet.
Do you expect to somehow blame that on Kamala too?
Sure is crazy isn’t it. Yet she watched it all happen, that ‘paying more’ reference.