Go back
Trump Supports the Troops, the Russian Ones

Trump Supports the Troops, the Russian Ones

Debates

no1marauder
Naturally Right

Somewhere Else

Joined
22 Jun 04
Moves
42677
Clock
21 Sep 20

@earl-of-trumps said
What a load of crappola. Are you this obtuse as to try and pass this flimsy article off as something TRUMP put together?

It says "a fundraising arm of the Trump Campaign". Doh.

Show me a quote from Donald Trump that says he supports Russian troops.
Trump has been going up against Russian troops *for real* in Ukraine, and now,,
very recently, sending troops in to Syria.

I am beginning to wonder about you level of intelligence. This is so juvenile of you
Trump is responsible for what his campaign produces, isn't he?

My point was that he and his cronies are incompetent idiots.

The facts regarding your other fairy tales in that our presence in Syria has helped Russia's side and that Trump didn't want to release any military aid to Ukraine unless they aided his re-election.

Woofwoof

Joined
06 Nov 15
Moves
41301
Clock
21 Sep 20

@earl-of-trumps said
What a load of crappola. Are you this obtuse as to try and pass this flimsy article off as something TRUMP put together?

It says "a fundraising arm of the Trump Campaign". Doh.

Show me a quote from Donald Trump that says he supports Russian troops.
Trump has been going up against Russian troops *for real* in Ukraine, and now,,
very recently, sending troops in to Syria.

I am beginning to wonder about you level of intelligence. This is so juvenile of you
I think you need to switch to a different hair tonic. The one you've been drinking has soaked your brain.

Trump hasn't done diddly-squat about the Ukraine or Crimea. In fact, he's actually relaxed the sanctions against Russia in spite of its ongoing belligerence.

As for Syria? Trump pulled our troops out and left our long time friends, the Kurds, fending for themselves against the Turks.

Please vary your sources my friend. You've been dependent upon rightist propaganda and it's not showing on you very well.

D

Joined
08 Jun 07
Moves
2120
Clock
21 Sep 20
Vote Up
Vote Down

AThousandYoung
1st Dan TKD Kukkiwon

tinyurl.com/2te6yzdu

Joined
23 Aug 04
Moves
26754
Clock
21 Sep 20

He's just using Putin's images and either didn't notice these details or thinks the US population is too stupid to notice.

D

Joined
08 Jun 07
Moves
2120
Clock
21 Sep 20
Vote Up
Vote Down

D
Losing the Thread

Quarantined World

Joined
27 Oct 04
Moves
87415
Clock
22 Sep 20

The post that was quoted here has been removed
I was skeptical about this statement, so did a little fact checking. The relevant Wikipedia page is "List of Active United Kingdom military aircraft". The British built aircraft in current use by the RAF are the Hawker Hawk, the Britten-Norman Defender, Britten-Norman Islander, the BAe 146, and the Westland Puma.

This is based on the column entry "origin" in the Wikipedia article. I checked the Britten-Norman planes, the Islander was produced in Romania under sub-contract. The Defender is the military version and, as far as I can tell from the Wikipedia page, is produced in the UK. What the Wikipedia page describes as "sub-assemblies" are still made in Romania.

All the aircraft used by the British Military are made by countries in NATO. As far as I'm aware all the military equipment (at least the expensive stuff) is made in NATO countries, a quick check indicates that there's also the L109A2 grenade originating in Switzerland, and an anti-materiel weapon (L2A1 ASM) which is Israeli. As it happens most fighting vehicles the Army use are British made [2].

There's a couple of problems with this. I'm relying on the Wikipedia pages being both up-to-date and complete, I could check on the RAF, Army and Navy's own websites and trace the manufacturers of each piece of kit, but that would be a tremendous amount of work. The second problem, which you alluded to, is where the parts are from. BAe systems has a supply chain with somewhere around 2 to 3 thousand companies. I have no idea what countries they are in.

What Britain does not do is use military equipment made by countries with which we have adversarial foreign relations. They probably have some kit acquired for training and evaluation purposes but they don't use them for operations.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Army_communications_and_reconnaissance_equipment
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_British_Army
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britten-Norman

D

Joined
08 Jun 07
Moves
2120
Clock
22 Sep 20
2 edits

D

Joined
08 Jun 07
Moves
2120
Clock
22 Sep 20
Vote Up
Vote Down

moonbus
Über-Nerd (emeritus)

Joined
31 May 12
Moves
8703
Clock
22 Sep 20

@athousandyoung said
He's just using Putin's images and either didn't notice these details or thinks the US population is too stupid to notice.
Attention to details is not the 'stable genius's' strong point.

moonbus
Über-Nerd (emeritus)

Joined
31 May 12
Moves
8703
Clock
22 Sep 20
1 edit

@deepthought said
I was skeptical about this statement, so did a little fact checking. The relevant Wikipedia page is "List of Active United Kingdom military aircraft". The British built aircraft in current use by the RAF are the Hawker Hawk, the Britten-Norman Defender, Britten-Norman Islander, the BAe 146, and the Westland Puma.

This is based on the column entry "origin" in the Wiki ...[text shortened]... dia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_British_Army
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britten-Norman
Thanks for doing the research. I should think Janes yearbook is the place to go.

In any case, it's not about who makes the hardware. It's about who typically deploys it in military operations. Of course, the USA may have a few MiGs for training &/or testing purposes, but the the USAF does not deploy them on missions.

That Trump's campaign committee should use images of an adversary's military hardware to promote his candidacy is a major gaffee. It sends all the wrong signals about where his allegiance really lies. His business and political connections with Russia are too well-documented to be discounted.

Earl of Trumps
Pawn Whisperer

My Kingdom fora Pawn

Joined
09 Jan 19
Moves
20419
Clock
22 Sep 20
2 edits

@no1marauder Trump is responsible for what his campaign produces, isn't he?

ONLY if it is inserted that Trump identifies himself and says he approves of this message.
Otherwise interested individuals can do with their money as they wish.

Also, however this screw-up happened, you do not say it is a screw-up. you insist -
Trump Supports the Troops, the Russian Ones

How fooking stupid is this? It's the fanciful creation of a shyster.

D

Joined
08 Jun 07
Moves
2120
Clock
22 Sep 20
Vote Up
Vote Down

D

Joined
08 Jun 07
Moves
2120
Clock
22 Sep 20
1 edit
Vote Up
Vote Down

D

Joined
08 Jun 07
Moves
2120
Clock
22 Sep 20
Vote Up
Vote Down

D

Joined
08 Jun 07
Moves
2120
Clock
22 Sep 20
Vote Up
Vote Down

Cookies help us deliver our Services. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Learn More.