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@KellyJay saidI see you have a soft spot when it comes to JD "Just Dumb" Vance. Thanks for letting me know, and you don't like hearing the TRUTH either. I am sure Trump just loves going around and having to defend what he says or twist his words. He said what he meant PERIOD. You picked quite the pair you did! 😉
Do you feel the need to repeat your insults, saying once just isn't enough. Do you think that helps make your points, or just display what is in your heart for all to see, for out of the heart the mouth speaks and your mouth isn't exactly kind and full of compassion and grace.
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@KellyJay saidIt matters Kelly who you watch on FOX you getting a pro Trump news on CNN they question both sides. FOX is known to be Pro Trump. Have you been under a rock?
What does it matter what I watch, I am not a single network viewer, if I don't get both sides I am not giving anyone a fair shake. If I said I watch Fox would that automatically mean my views are worthless, could the same be true if I asked if you watched CNN or MSN? We are reasoning here, not putting up news links to prove our points, if you cannot think for yourself what is the point of you?
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@kmax87 saidIf the vast majority all share the same views they would most certainly appear way, but that doesn't speak to whether are they fair in their coverage only that there are so many saying the same thing!
What I have observed is that FOX goes in hard in general. If they like someone, they are their biggest fans. If they don't then they fan the flames of every dodgy story.
On the other hand CNN, NBC etc are a little more middle of the road. They don't entertain the extremes as much as FOX. They don't promote the same dark pessimistic view that FOX does regarding America and its future. That's what I've observed.
Those guys share the same talking points, more times than not using the same keywords. The latest being the word "weird" all of a sudden they are all using it. That is just one example, countless other times it is like they are reading from the same script. Critically thinking requires looking at all of them with the same grain of salt to avoid confirmation bias, if not then you are not thinking things through you are only buying what you are being told without question.
Same thing in our schools there is a difference between accepting everything you are being told, because kids are being taught what to think, instead of teaching them how to think. Flames generated through being told who to hate, if we lose critical thinking, if we lose knowledge about history, we have nothing to judge with, we will accept what we are told without question. If you get people to hate someone, then everything they see about them will be just another excuse to hate them more!
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@Very-Rusty saidIf you watch hate Trump news you think that matters? The trouble with your argument is that it cuts both ways, if we are not looking at each of the politicians with the same critical eye on a level playing field we can be hoodwinked, and if we have an auto-hate reaction as soon as a name is mentioned, that should clue you in on something bad is happening!! I don't care if you hate the Dem or the Rep, auto hate isn't good it clouds the mind, it stops us looking at what is before us as we should instead we only get, see they are bad over and over again no matter what we are looking at.
It matters Kelly who you watch on FOX you getting a pro Trump news on CNN they question both sides. FOX is known to be Pro Trump. Have you been under a rock?
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@KellyJay saidActually CNN give both sides FOX is the Pro Trump news station. Do you know if he has shares in that station???
If you watch hate Trump news you think that matters? The trouble with your argument is that it cuts both ways, if we are not looking at each of the politicians with the same critical eye on a level playing field we can be hoodwinked, and if we have an auto-hate reaction as soon as a name is mentioned, that should clue you in on something bad is happening!! I don't care if y ...[text shortened]... e should instead we only get, see they are bad over and over again no matter what we are looking at.
I actually watch many news stations and Fox is Pro Trump, CNN is more neutral and have both sides of view. Of the two CNN in my opinion is best, not even close to the Pro FOX "TRUMP" can do no wrong news!!!
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@Very-Rusty saidNot from what I have seen and I'd say the numbers of people who watch the news show they trust one over the other in large numbers. It is telling that when some new agencies think about hiring a conservative their anchors revote, there is bias.
Actually CNN give both sides FOX is the Pro Trump news station. Do you know if he has shares in that station???
I actually watch many news stations and Fox is Pro Trump, CNN is more neutral and have both sides of view. Of the two CNN in my opinion is best, not even close to the Pro FOX can do no wrong news!!!
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@KellyJay saidWell, I've seen lots of Bias at FOX. I believe CNN does try to look at things from both sides, some of the hosts have their own views, but make it a point to say it is their personal view. FOX has ALWAYS been Bias and Pro TRUMP!!!! I almost feel bad for him having to run around the country defending JD "Just Dumb" Vance, on the other hand he didn't think his VP mattered. Now he sees why it matters.
Not from what I have seen and I'd say the numbers of people who watch the news show they trust one over the other in large numbers. It is telling that when some new agencies think about hiring a conservative their anchors revote, there is bias.
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@KellyJay saidAs far as talking points go and sticking to the script, FOX pioneered that! That's fundamental to their success as a cable news network.
If the vast majority all share the same views they would most certainly appear way, but that doesn't speak to whether are they fair in their coverage only that there are so many saying the same thing!
Those guys share the same talking points, more times than not using the same keywords. The latest being the word "weird" all of a sudden they are all using it. That is jus ...[text shortened]... to hate someone, then everything they see about them will be just another excuse to hate them more!
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@kmax87 saidStaying on message doesn’t mean you’re messaging is correct, neither does being in the majority or minority. The best we could come up with for justice is blindfolding her with scales, as soon as we allow hate, greed, or other forms of human flaws put their fingers on the scales we lose. So I ask you, do you hold those you listen to, to the same standards as those you don’t? Where you get your news the same question?
As far as talking points go and sticking to the script, FOX pioneered that! That's fundamental to their success as a cable news network.
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@Very-Rusty saidI don’t think you look at your own posts with critical eyes let alone the news.
Well, I've seen lots of Bias at FOX. I believe CNN does try to look at things from both sides, some of the hosts have their own views, but make it a point to say it is their personal view. FOX has ALWAYS been Bias and Pro TRUMP!!!! I almost feel bad for him having to run around the country defending JD "Just Dumb" Vance, on the other hand he didn't think his VP mattered. Now he sees why it matters.
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FOX has the handicap of being Murdoch, and Murdoch has always been populist, requiring all of his editors to toe his line or get fired. They don't have the luxury of even attempting to offer a variety of views. So the interviewer will be a mouthpiece for Trump.
Nonetheless, even the kind of rosy glow cast over Trump on FOX won't be able to hide the blemishes that are so evident to the rest of the world.
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@KellyJay saidTo begin with I don't look at anything with critical eyes as you inappropriately put it. I am a Canadian and look at it from pretty much a Neutral Position. I know how Trump policies effected Canadians and my American friend and relatives in the his time in the Oval Office, after 4 years they are still trying to straighten up the mess he made of everything. His first visit is where? To see his buddy Putin....No America President has done that. He wants to get out of NATO. If not for them the big Prisoner exchange would not have been possible. The list goes on and on, Trump did NOT do a good job while in office and at the end of his term didn't want to hand over power to those who won it fairly in an election and turned his mob to try and stop the transfer of power claiming the election was stolen, another of his many lies while in office. The world doesn't need another 4 years of Trump and his VP JD "Just Dumb" Vance. He really doesn't think his VP matters but will find out differently in this election how much a VP does matter!
I don’t think you look at your own posts with critical eyes let alone the news.
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@Very-Rusty saidBeing a Canadian doesn’t remove you from being human with all of our strength and flaws. If you are going to suggest that you are not opinionated about these topics because you are not American why be so rude towards some? You have been very insulting and you think that is just?
To begin with I don't look at anything with critical eyes as you inappropriately put it. I am a Canadian and look at it from pretty much a Neutral Position. I know how Trump policies effected Canadians and my American friend and relatives in the his time in the Oval Office, after 4 years they are still trying to straighten up the mess he made of everything. His first visit ...[text shortened]... ink his VP matters but will find out differently in this election how much a VP does matter!
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@KellyJay saidI've been insulting??? Have you heard what your King Trump and JD "Just Dumb" Vance have been saying? Or are your ears tuned OFF to that? You are as Biased as FOX news maybe even more so when it comes to those two clowns. Even at Least one Republican Governor is going to Vote for Harris because he doesn't believe in what Trump stands for. At least one is waking up, I am sure there will be more to follow. It just takes one to come out and say what he is doing is wrong, then others will see it if they already haven't and will be more willing to come out and say so in Public.
Being a Canadian doesn’t remove you from being human with all of our strength and flaws. If you are going to suggest that you are not opinionated about these topics because you are not American why be so rude towards some? You have been very insulting and you think that is just?
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@Very-Rusty saidYou think if you see something wrong you now have the freedom and license to behave just as badly?
I've been insulting??? Have you heard what your King Trump and JD "Just Dumb" Vance have been saying? Or are your ears tuned OFF to that? You are as Biased as FOX news maybe even more so when it comes to those two clowns. Even at Least one Republican Governor is going to Vote for Harris because he doesn't believe in what Trump stands for. At least one is waking up, I am s ...[text shortened]... see it if they already haven't and will be more willing to come out and say so in Public.
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