18 Oct 23
@wajoma saidYou can keep lying if you want, but the Guardian article said "airstrike" and that means Israel.
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"[i]Having established the key details, we were then able to identify common features in other footage claiming to show the incident, including a video shot from about 100 meters away which shows burning vehicles.
We spoke to several weapons experts but they said it is hard to tell what caused the explosion based on the videos of the ...[text shortened]... s and blame it's this one right. You know about ass-u-me right? It' makes an ass out of u and you.
I made up nothing.
18 Oct 23
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@divegeester saidYes Iran must be doing a jig as well, that Israeli / Saudi / US alliance was designed as a counterbalance to Iran and its proxies in the region but apparently there is no evidence of Iranian involvement in the Hamas attack or its timing. Well apart from motive and opportunity obviously
The timing of the Hamas attack was interesting; just when the US was moving to position themselves as brokers of the relative period of calm. Biden getting told to go away by Jordan yesterday is also interesting.
I don’t think a land break will achieve Israel’s goal. There might/will be some frantic financial negotiations by the US with Egypt to open its border once it ...[text shortened]... ises the inevitable. Otherwise what are we looking at, concentration camps in Israeli occupied Gaza.
18 Oct 23
@no1marauder saidDoubling down eh, the cowards way, can't fess up that you got a little carried away with glee at putting the knife into Israel. You'd rather draggggg it out.
You can keep lying if you want, but the Guardian article said "airstrike" and that means Israel.
I made up nothing.
It does not mean Israeli airstrike, it appears they, like the BBC showed restraint and integrity (of which you have none) in not making p stuff they're unsure of. Do you know what they'd be saying if they could prove it was the IDF, it'd be a headline. Of course Hamas has a number of ways of delivering ordnance from the air, missiles fired from the ground will go into the air, (you're impressed eh). They also drop bombs from UAVs, there's vid of them taking out an Israeli tank out with this method and civilians running for their lives at the sound of these devices.
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18 Oct 23
@metal-brain said'Do you think Israel will allow any of them to return once they have complete control over north Gaza?"
Was it Israel that bombed one of the escape routes or was it Egypt?
Why would Israel care if the Palestinians leave Gaza and go to Egypt? Isn't getting them to leave been Israel's goal all along? Cutting off 90% of potable water and cutting off electricity most of the time was meant to make their lives difficult so they would leave, right? That was going on for years. I ...[text shortened]... o you think Israel will allow any of them to return once they have complete control over north Gaza?
I know I wouldnt, would you?
19 Oct 23
@no1marauder
US Vetoes UN Resolution For Gaza Ceasefire As Biden Visit Fails To Calm Fears Of Wider War
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/biden-israel-agrees-netanyahu-looks-other-team-did-hospital-strike
Biden is merely pretending he wants Israel to restrain itself. It is all an act like a good cop bad cop routine.
24 Oct 23
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US vetoes UN resolution condemning all violence against civilians in Israel-Hamas war........ after calling for Israel to follow the rules of war.
https://apnews.com/article/un-security-council-resolution-gaza-hamas-1c23913f8552f5379b2c158a83493835
Do you see the hypocrisy? What Biden says means nothing. It is all an act.
24 Oct 23
@metal-brain saidI’m pretty sure all violence against against all civilians is illegal and considered a war crime but it’s a bit hard to get a SC resolution when a founder member has been committing that crime for the last 18months or so Ivan
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US vetoes UN resolution condemning all violence against civilians in Israel-Hamas war........ after calling for Israel to follow the rules of war.
https://apnews.com/article/un-security-council-resolution-gaza-hamas-1c23913f8552f5379b2c158a83493835
Do you see the hypocrisy? What Biden says means nothing. It is all an act.
24 Oct 23
@kevcvs57 saidRussia did not veto it if that is who you are alluding to. Russia abstained.
I’m pretty sure all violence against against all civilians is illegal and considered a war crime but it’s a bit hard to get a SC resolution when a founder member has been committing that crime for the last 18months or so Ivan
Russia does not target civilians, but all wars result in civilian deaths. Any nation that has ever been in a war has committed that crime by your standards.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/may/20/balkans9
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/magazine-32358662
24 Oct 23
@metal-brain said"Russia does not target civilians,"
Russia did not veto it if that is who you are alluding to. Russia abstained.
Russia does not target civilians, but all wars result in civilian deaths. Any nation that has ever been in a war has committed that crime by your standards.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/may/20/balkans9
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/magazine-32358662
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24 Oct 23
@metal-brain saidThen they are all war criminals yet like the Putin regime who definitely without a shadow of a doubt do target civilians with bombs, missiles, execution, rape and torture
Russia did not veto it if that is who you are alluding to. Russia abstained.
Russia does not target civilians, but all wars result in civilian deaths. Any nation that has ever been in a war has committed that crime by your standards.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/may/20/balkans9
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/magazine-32358662
24 Oct 23
@kevcvs57 saidThere is no evidence Russia targeted civilians. There is a big difference between targeting and condoning. Targeting means you intended to kill civilians. A missile that hits an unintended building is not a target. Knowing your missiles are going to miss their target and inadvertently will kill civilians is condoning, not targeting.
Then they are all war criminals yet like the Putin regime who definitely without a shadow of a doubt do target civilians with bombs, missiles, execution, rape and torture
Targeting is an intentional kill.
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@zahlanzi saidTargeting is an intentional kill.
"Russia does not target civilians,"
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Russia went through a lot of trouble to minimize civilian deaths in Ukraine. The reason is simple and logical. Most of the places they annexed from Ukraine had a lot of ethnic Russians living there. Why would they kill their supporters? That would be stupid.
You are listening to propaganda to demonize the Russians. Did Nato terget this hospital?
20 May: Three dead as Nato bombs hit hospital
https://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/may/20/balkans9
And this TV station?
1999 Nato bomb on Serb TV station
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/magazine-32358662
24 Oct 23
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From the BBC:
UN chief says 7 October attack did not happen in a vaccuum
At a meeting of the United Nations Security Council in New York, secretary general Antonio Guterres said that "the 7 October attack by Hamas on Israel "did not happen in a vacuum”.
Guterres added “The Palestinian people been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation. They have seen their lands steadily devolved by settlements and plagued by violence. Their economy stifled. Their people displaced and their homes demolished. Their hopes for a political solution to their plight have been vanishing."
But he also said: "the grievances of the Palestinian people cannot justify the appalling attacks by Hamas and those appalling attacks cannot justify the collective punishment of the Palestinian people”.
Sounds reasonable enough. Balanced, true and humanitarian.
What was Israel’s response?
Israel's ambassador to the United Nations, Gilad Erdan, has demanded UN chief Antonio Guterres resign…
The Israeli’s can’t handle any form of criticism, no matter how balanced it is.
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24 Oct 23
@shavixmir saidits hard to accept criticism while you search for the parts of your childs body...
From the BBC:UN chief says 7 October attack did not happen in a vaccuum
At a meeting of the United Nations Security Council in New York, secretary general Antonio Guterres said that "the 7 October attack by Hamas on Israel "did not happen in a vacuum”.
Guterres added “The Palestinian people been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation. They have seen th ...[text shortened]... s resign…
The Israeli’s can’t handle any form of criticism, no matter how balanced it is.
25 Oct 23
@mott-the-hoople saidSame goes for the Palestinians.
its hard to accept criticism while you search for the parts of your childs body...