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US 2nd Amendment - what does it say?

US 2nd Amendment - what does it say?

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@jimm619
Hell, I wouldn't put it past the zombie repubs to allow the purchase of NUKES.

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@jimm619 said
CANADIANS CANNOT OWN HANDGUNS
Yes we can.

Cops and Elite soldiers own them.
Corrections officers too.
My step dad growing up was a corrections officer and he had a 357.
My brother is in the military and he has one fancy glock or something.

Maybe you should do some research before you speak?

As far as regular Joe's having them? No I don't think that is allowed. 🤔

If your job could affect your home safety then you are allowed to own one.

I'd rather use a 12 guage with buckshot anyways 😉

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@suzianne said
Your pals, the NRA, and the morals-free legislators you support, work tirelessly to allow these shooters to walk in and obtain these weapons legally, with no background check, as this shooter did.
I am not on this stuff 24/7 like most folks, I just got stuff going on. But if what you say is true, I can only say that it is my opinion that people who buy guns should be checked out by the right people, in a government capacity, to be sure they qualify to own a gun. You are saying that repubs, or conservatives, or whomever, 'work to allow people to buy weapons with no background check'.
So, two issues. Can a person, indeed, buy a gun with no background check? I do not agree with that. An illegal alien from Mexico could buy one. A real downer.
Second issue: Repubs et al work tirelessly for no background check. Can you send me a link on that....I know people, and I need to get this info to them, like a modern day Paul Revere!

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@shallow-blue said
All of the policemen of Uvalda had guns.

They did absolutely nothing.

No, wait, that's not true. They did absolutely nothing to save other people's children. Some of them were "brave" enough to get their own abbottions out of there, but nobody else's. Some of them were brave enough to taser parents trying to save their children. They did do that, at least. T ...[text shortened]... they didn't. And they don't. The only thing freely available guns do is... massacre school children.
They did chicken out. The teacher needed to be armed. Maybe we conservatives can finally get that passed. And libs, after all this typing about it, will finally agree with us.
Now we can move on to agreements about Trump.

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@zahlanzi said
There were cops standing outside for an hour while children bled to death and the gunman kept shooting. Waiting for backup because they were too afraid to go in.

But yeah, give the history teacher a handgun.


"We don't need guns. Who agrees with you?"
Most of the US and all the civilized world.
Spoken by a guy from a society a bit unlike ours. Boy, everyone listen up! I think the is trying to tell us to not arm the teachers to kill hell out of invaders. I think he is also cool with invaders at our borders. Give us your real thoughts, Zahlanzi.

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@capacrapa said
Yes we can.

Cops and Elite soldiers own them.
Corrections officers too.
My step dad growing up was a corrections officer and he had a 357.
My brother is in the military and he has one fancy glock or something.

Maybe you should do some research before you speak?

As far as regular Joe's having them? No I don't think that is allowed. 🤔

If your job could affect ...[text shortened]... ur home safety then you are allowed to own one.

I'd rather use a 12 guage with buckshot anyways 😉
Anyone can't own one, as in U.S.A.
THERE ARE STRINGENT OWNERSHIP RULES
FOR CANADIANS TO OWN A HANDGUN.
Right?
And, Japan, England, France, Mexico...and on ,and on.

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@jimm619 said
Anyone can't own one, as in U.S.A.
THERE ARE STRINGENT OWNERSHIP RULES
FOR CANADIANS TO OWN A HANDGUN.
Right?
And, Japan, England, France, Mexico...and on ,and on.
You said Canadians can't own a handgun and now you're saying they can if they follow guidelines...(which is what I said)

You're all over the place 🤷

Go sit down.

Let the adults talk.

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@CapaCrapa
So tell me how many school mass shootings have there been in Canada?

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I like the idea that all current and prospective gun-owners need to enroll in a well-regulated militia -- whether a private one or one run by their state of residence -- even if that militia's only purpose is to make sure they are trained in the safe use, maintenance, and storage of firearms and ammo, and to vet and vouch for their suitability to own a gun (with annual review for renewal of licenses).

The tricky part is: who gets to assess and decide whether someone else is fit or not fit to own a gun.

Conservatives (and I hope everyone else) will remember that under Stalinism, psychiatric diagnoses were used as a means and threat of political control and silencing.

Of course in the USA during the same decades we used accusations of being Communist or being Gay for the same purpose.

When I was a kid, we only had one or two tornado drills. Not even "duck and cover" atomic blast drills. I can't imagine what it's like to be a schoolkid or a parent of schoolkids these days.

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@sonhouse said
@CapaCrapa
So tell me how many school mass shootings have there been in Canada?
None that I know of and most real Canadians have guns so it's not the guns fault its your country and its culture to blame 😉

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@capacrapa said
None that I know of and most real Canadians have guns so it's not the guns fault its your country and its culture to blame 😉
Thank you. That's interesting to learn.

I gather that in your Dominion-mate Ole Blighty, guns are generally banned, so people resort to happy-slapping, knifing each other, and throwing acid at the faces of strangers.

So yes, agreeing with you re: the cultural component of this.

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@averagejoe1 said
They did chicken out. The teacher needed to be armed. Maybe we conservatives can finally get that passed. And libs, after all this typing about it, will finally agree with us.
Now we can move on to agreements about Trump.
Arm the teachers, and every mass shooter of the month will know to take out the teacher first.

Maybe we should just require schoolkids to wear riot-gear to school. I'm sure someone could profit off that, inasmuch as kids keep growing and some parents would be too proud to have their kid show up in hand-me-down riot gear.

I do get the conservative POV that it's not the sane, stable gun-owners who go around shooting dozens of people -- but I don't understand the conservative objection to somehow keeping the guns out of the hands of crazy people.

I gather that most conservatives are good bean-counters, so I don't completely understand the skewed economics of "hardening" all the schools vs. some kind of screening process and waiting period for new gun owners and maybe a yearly or biennial review for current gun owners to renew their licenses.

As I mentioned a few posts above (using Stalinist times as an example), I do get that the big question would be: who gets to determine who is fit to own firearms, in a standardized, even-handed, non-politicized way?

What are your thoughts on the matter? (I understand that you might still be in active practice as an attorney, and therefore busy.)

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@Kevin-Eleven

If every teacher is armed and trained the active shooter would be a sitting duck.

This is why shooters don't walk into police stations and start shooting. They wouldn't last very long.

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@capacrapa said
@Kevin-Eleven

If every teacher is armed and trained the active shooter would be a sitting duck.

This is why shooters don't walk into police stations and start shooting. They wouldn't last very long.
Are all Canadian teachers armed and trained, or are you just talking out of your hat?

Maybe we should all get armed and trained, and shoot the smithereens out of each other. Problem solved.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081

So, for every 100 US citizens, there are 120 guns…
Next country up is… Yemen… with 52 guns per 100 citizens.

In 2020: 45.222 gun deaths. 54% of them suicide (well, no loss there then, I guess).

According to the FBI, there were 345 "active shooter incidents" in the United States between 2000-2020, resulting in more than 1,024 deaths and 1,828 injuries.

What’s that? Roughly 1 every 3 days? Killing roughly 1 person each day and injuring 6?

Aye… nothing problematic there that more guns can’t solve.
I say: arm the fukkers to the teeth, let loose the hounds of hell, but take their bloody passports away… leave them on their rock to rot in moronity.

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