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@shavixmir said"The country with the second highest gun to citizen ratio is Yemen. They have 52.8 guns per person. Canada has 34.7 guns per inhabitant.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081
[i]Firearms deaths are a fixture in American life.
There were 1.5 million of them between 1968 and 2017 - that's higher than the number of soldiers killed in every US conflict since the American War for Independence in 1775.
In 2020 alone, more than 45,000 Americans died at the end of a barrel of a gun, whether by homic ...[text shortened]... just too much of a coincidence for a fetish.
What is it that makes republicans want to own guns?
The US has 120.5 guns per in habitant. '
LOL
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@athousandyoung saidThat's not what the OP said.
It’s per 100 people so 1.2 guns per person
hwikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country
"The country with the second highest gun to citizen ratio is Yemen. They have 52.8 guns per person. Canada has 34.7 guns per inhabitant.
The US has 120.5 guns per in habitant."
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24 Jan 23
The post that was quoted here has been removedI understand where you live?? When the huge majority of your original thread is about the US and your amusing idea of republican thought process it means your ideology is the same as the crazy liberal dems. Would you agree?
24 Jan 23
@shavixmir said"Not really on the private market. "
Not really on the private market.
If you look at the manufacturing costs, the add-up for the shops and the price of the gun, it's not that much of a profit. It looks, to me, like the profit margins for gun manufacturing are in army supplies and ammunition.
I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like from what I was looking at.
first link i found in google. just since the pandemic began.
https://www.npr.org/2022/06/03/1102989967/gun-companies-have-made-billions-of-dollars-since-the-pandemic-began-report-says
"If you look at the manufacturing costs, the add-up for the shops and the price of the gun, it's not that much of a profit."
even without actual proof to contradict it (and there is), this would still scream illogical. They are lobbying for lax gun control, they are making adds screaming "the dems are taking your guns away" and many more . It's "that much of a profit" to at least offset the millions spent on that. Three billion in net profit just since the pandemic.
"I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like from what I was looking at."
you are wrong
@jj-adams saidWell that settles the discussion then. We only go by what you personally know.
I don't know anyone that has 120 guns, let alone that being the average number of guns owned by people in America.
Where did you get this bizarre claim?
One could write a lot of books with what you don't know. And they have.
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@zahlanzi saidThey make money, not that many years ago you could pick up a certain gun for 400. after 50. Rebate, now a thousand and up. Then you get into many other things like furniture, good optics, extra mags, upgrades, and on. They make plenty of money when all is said and done.
"Not really on the private market. "
first link i found in google. just since the pandemic began.
https://www.npr.org/2022/06/03/1102989967/gun-companies-have-made-billions-of-dollars-since-the-pandemic-began-report-says
"If you look at the manufacturing costs, the add-up for the shops and the price of the gun, it's not that much of a profit."
even without actual proo ...[text shortened]... mic.
"I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like from what I was looking at."
you are wrong
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@zahlanzi saidSo you believe the claim that the average person owns 120 guns in America?
Well that settles the discussion then. We only go by what you personally know.
One could write a lot of books with what you don't know. And they have.
Do you just believe everything you read without a second thought?
25 Jan 23
@mott-the-hoople saidlol, and Shav posted that having FILL FAITH it was right.
"The country with the second highest gun to citizen ratio is Yemen. They have 52.8 guns per person. Canada has 34.7 guns per inhabitant.
The US has 120.5 guns per in habitant. '
LOL
what a dope.
25 Jan 23
The American people have the right to change the Constitution, but despite the cries of horror the "people" have not done this.
What's going on?
The people making all the noise about gun control are people that want government to have more control.
They also know they are not the majority, So they do not try to *legally* do a gun-grab.
so they want the next best thing, do a gun-grab by fiat! Fukk the constitution,
then the fun begins
25 Jan 23
@mott-the-hoople saidOh. Yes. I see what I wrote wrong.
"The country with the second highest gun to citizen ratio is Yemen. They have 52.8 guns per person. Canada has 34.7 guns per inhabitant.
The US has 120.5 guns per in habitant. '
LOL
It’s 120 guns per 100 inhabitants.
You could just point that out. Anyhoo… if you read the article it becomes clear what I mean.
And the basic difference between the US, Yemen and the rest stays exactly the same.
So, correction accepted, but it does nothing to the argument.
@jj-adams saidthat's the thing you got stuck on? the actual number? did it occur to you it was an exageration to get the point across that too many nutjobs buy too many guns? Which they then maybe sell to a future mass shooter or just a maniac who will shoot his wife? Or to a thug who will then bring it to one of those "Dem run cities" that you love to give as an example of gun control not working.
So you believe the claim that the average person owns 120 guns in America?
Do you just believe everything you read without a second thought?
No, i didn't believe the average american owns 120 guns. I believe the average american wants reasonable gun control and that includes the conservative rural americans.
@shavixmir saidSwitzerland also has a large number of guns per capita, but an extremely low rate of gun violence per 100,000. It’s the threshold for using guns in anger or fear that matters. In another recent mass shooting incident in the USA, two groups of people got into a fracas and just started taking pot shots at each other. The whole damn country needs anger management therapy.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081
[i]Firearms deaths are a fixture in American life.
There were 1.5 million of them between 1968 and 2017 - that's higher than the number of soldiers killed in every US conflict since the American War for Independence in 1775.
In 2020 alone, more than 45,000 Americans died at the end of a barrel of a gun, whether by homic ...[text shortened]... just too much of a coincidence for a fetish.
What is it that makes republicans want to own guns?
However, I think there is also a culture of glorifying violence in America and a romanticized myth of the Wild West and pioneer days. See for example;
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/01/24/politics/proud-boys-cooperator-testifies
I don’t think there are such armed militias, like the Proud Boys and the Oath Takers, in other civilized countries. Many of these peculiarly American militias are composed of people who a) think of themselves as patriots, and yet b) have a visceral hatred and distrust of government. Add guns, and it’s a toxic cocktail.
Granted, Haiti has armed militias, but that’s a country effectively in a state of anarchy with no functioning government. And NI had armed militias; that was a case of low-level and protracted civil war. Not really comparable to the situation in the USA.