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@kevcvs57 said
Yea and one way he rigs them is by labelling opposition news outlets as ‘Foreign Agents’ and having other political opposition imprisoned on trumped up charges usually concerning financial impropriety, this from the guy that heads the biggest money laundering operation in the world.
There are no free elections in Russia Putin will be dictator for life. He even dropped the c ...[text shortened]... which coincidently trump thought was an excellent idea.
Stop lying and stop being stupid Ivanovic.
If there are no free elections in Russia there is no need to assassinate political opponents. People are less likely to notice a rigged election than a poisoned political opponent.

You are not making any sense. Even the polls did not show Putin's political opponent was a serious rival. Your entire argument is void of logic.

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@metal-brain said
How will they notice when every legal challenge is thrown out of court?
They did give support to Ukraine in its drive to disengage from the Kremlin and move toward the west via the EU, and Ukraine does have a serious issue with Neo Nazis but it is not a Neo Nazi state.
Germany had / has an issue Neo Nazis as does the UK and the US it’s a phenomenon that occurs when a society or body politic is under internal and external stress. The quickest way to defeat the Neo Nazi elements in the Ukraine would be for the Kremlin to back off and allow Ukraines integration into the EU.
When you have a Russian, or any army camped on your border with obvious intent Neo Nazis in your own camp might seem the least of your worries.

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Oh ya I forgot.

TURKEY should be front and center in these discussions. Their opinion matters. And aren’t they in NATO? Or did they leave?

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@kevcvs57 said
They did give support to Ukraine in its drive to disengage from the Kremlin and move toward the west via the EU, and Ukraine does have a serious issue with Neo Nazis but it is not a Neo Nazi state.
Germany had / has an issue Neo Nazis as does the UK and the US it’s a phenomenon that occurs when a society or body politic is under internal and external stress. The quickest wa ...[text shortened]... on your border with obvious intent Neo Nazis in your own camp might seem the least of your worries.
If there are no free elections in Russia there is no need to assassinate political opponents. People are less likely to notice a rigged election than a poisoned political opponent.

You are not making any sense. Even the polls did not show Putin's political opponent was a serious rival. Your entire argument is void of logic.

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@metal-brain said
If there are no free elections in Russia there is no need to assassinate political opponents. People are less likely to notice a rigged election than a poisoned political opponent.

You are not making any sense. Even the polls did not show Putin's political opponent was a serious rival. Your entire argument is void of logic.
Uh… pot… kettle…

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@metal-brain said
Government and state are not the same.
A misquote is a misquote.
Oh… really now…

So, you can have a neo-nazi government in a non-neo-nazi State? Mhmmmm…

So, you can have a communist government in a neo-nazi State?

For all intensive purposes, when one refers to a neo-nazi government, they are talking about the State.

However, in the case at hand, as has been served to you on multiple plates, assorted crockery and every dish in the washer: Ukraine doesn’t have a neo-nazi government and isn’t a neo-nazi State.

I did, however, remember trump tweeting neo-nazi propaganda…

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@metal-brain said
If there are no free elections in Russia there is no need to assassinate political opponents. People are less likely to notice a rigged election than a poisoned political opponent.

You are not making any sense. Even the polls did not show Putin's political opponent was a serious rival. Your entire argument is void of logic.
There are no free elections in Russia because he assassinates dissenters and imprisons political rivals. I’m making perfect sense you are just too stupid to understand me.
Newspapers that tell the truth simply get shut down you’d love it there MB, oh wait now I’m being stupid. You must love it there MB.

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@kevcvs57 said
There are no free elections in Russia because he assassinates dissenters and imprisons political rivals. I’m making perfect sense you are just too stupid to understand me.
Newspapers that tell the truth simply get shut down you’d love it there MB, oh wait now I’m being stupid. You must love it there MB.
So it has nothing to do with votes? That means there is no election fraud involved. You are claiming it is solely on the basis of assassination and imprisonment.

What kind of poll numbers did his political rivals have? If you are going to claim they were that much of a threat to Putin you need to prove it. What were their poll numbers?

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@metal-brain said
So it has nothing to do with votes? That means there is no election fraud involved. You are claiming it is solely on the basis of assassination and imprisonment.

What kind of poll numbers did his political rivals have? If you are going to claim they were that much of a threat to Putin you need to prove it. What were their poll numbers?
You cannot be that stupid they are picked of long before the Election Day Face it MB you live in a dictatorship and you love it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/29/ruling-united-russia-party-offers-payouts-to-ensure-poll-victory?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/20/pro-putin-party-wins-majority-in-russian-elections-despite-declining-support?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

“ Several prominent Communist candidates in Moscow have called for a protest on Monday evening after online voting results flipped races in eight of 15 Moscow districts toward pro-Kremlin candidates.

Two or three other parties that regularly agree with the Kremlin on key issues will also join a Duma dominated by United Russia.

The European Union, Britain and the United States all condemned the vote. A UK Foreign Office spokesman said Russia had sought to “marginalise civil society, silence independent media and exclude genuine opposition candidates from participating” in “a serious step back for democratic freedoms in Russia.”

The US Department of State spokesman Ned Price said the vote “took place under conditions not conducive to free and fair proceedings”, adding that Washington would not recognise the results of votes held in Crimea, which was annexed from Ukraine in 2014. The UK also condemned Russia for holding elections “on Ukraine’s sovereign territory”.

The performance of the ruling party was slightly weaker than in 2016, when United Russia won 54% of the vote. But the results mean that little will change in Russian politics, where Putin recently led an effort to change the constitution so that he can run for president twice more until 2036.

Andrey Turchak, a top United Russia official, said the party had won at least 315 seats in the parliament in a “convincing and clean victory”. But many others, including some Communist candidates and backers of the jailed Kremlin critic Alexei Navalny, have disagreed.

Videos from polling stations showed the usual efforts at ballot stuffing and attempts to drive off vote monitors keeping a close eye on the ballot urns. But the greater scandal came on Monday morning, as the results of nearly 2m online votes flipped many of the elections that appeared to be going against the Kremlin’s preferred candidates.”.

Russian democracy is just another of your fantastical lies and this is the system you think the west hand 44 million Ukrainians over too so that the murderer Putin can park his tanks on Polands border, a country with a recent history of invasion and occupation by Russia.

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http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/congress-alert/2022/january/26/bipartisanship-us-house-races-massive-ukraine-weapons-transfer-to-the-floor/

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Another proxy war with Russia/USSR?

I predict the US government will impose sanctions BEFORE Russia invades, not after. If there are no sanctions Russia will not invade. The US government is just looking for another lame excuse to impose more sanctions to squeeze Russia. Russia knows that. That is the real cause of the military build up by Russia.

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@metal-brain said
If there are no free elections in Russia there is no need to assassinate political opponents.
Repeating a stupid statement verbatim does not make it any less stupid.

Assassination is how dictators make sure their opponents accept the outcome of their blatantly unfree elections.

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Did you know Trump has a copy of Mein Kampf on his nightstand? He reads it every night, it's his BIBLE.
This was shown by the dude who ghost wrote his book 'The art of the deal'.
He also couldn't hang onto a complete thought for more than about 2 minutes and switches gears.

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@shallow-blue said
Repeating a stupid statement verbatim does not make it any less stupid.

Assassination is how dictators make sure their opponents accept the outcome of their blatantly unfree elections.
If the elections are "blatantly unfree elections" you just steal the election. No need for assassination.

You are such a retard. Would you assassinate a political opponent with very low poll numbers? How could a political opponent win a fair election with such pathetic poll numbers, let alone a rigged one? You cannot even call him a political rival. Rivals have a chance of winning.

If Russia wanted him dead he would be dead. They don't botch assassinations. The fact he is still breathing is highly suspect.

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@Metal-Brain
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/09/a-brief-history-of-attempted-russian-assassinations-by-poison/

He didn't kill them ALL.

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