Vaccine users dying in the Netherlands

@wajoma said
It's a joke kmax, how many times do I need to say it, NZDSOS receive emails and messages from people that want their story told.

Forget 'anecdote', and coincidence, forget 'speculation'

The story is, hundreds of people, they're liars, and NZDSOS are liars, and they're doing it for a larf.

And even though in any poll in any country, politicians are in the bottom t ...[text shortened]... e posted the uptick in died suddenlys already, shag doody thought that was a joke too, hahahahahaha.

I'm laughing on the inside.

@soothfast said
All this is anecdotal and speculative, and moreover, "unexpected deaths" happen all the time to young and old.

And there is more: it is known that many who "recover" from getting Covid are not truly recovered, even after many months. This was established back in 2020. Blood clotting issues have been discovered, as well as lung damage, vasculitis (inflammation of the b ...[text shortened]... nt) issues. All this was observed in studies done a few years ago, even in those in their twenties.

With a bit more time on my hands at the moment, I will further thresh out the quoted post.

There is the idea of a baseline brought up by kmax87. That is the avenue toward a more meaningful analysis.

Are people dying "unexpectedly" (whatever that means) more now than before the pandemic? The answer could be no, and this is all down to crackpots now poring over obituaries like never before, with a studiousness they customarily apply to the funny papers, cherry picking every death they deem to be "unusual."

However, surveys have shown that there has been an "excess mortality" phenomenon in most developed countries in recent times. There are several plausible explanations for this:

1) Uncounted Covid deaths.

2) Deferred health care: the pandemic prevented people from seeing doctors and going to hospitals as they usually might, thereby causing undiagnosed illnesses to slip by and become fatal.

3) Long Covid and subclinical Covid damage. It is the subclinical Covid damage that I addressed in my earlier post (something like "long Covid" but without any palpable symptoms). It has been found that many who "recover" from Covid have in fact taken heavy damage to their bodies that have no overt symptoms. Vasculitis is one manifestation of this damage, studies have shown, and it can cause clots. Lung damage, too, stresses the cardiovascular system. Damage to other organs has also been found, even in teenagers who "feel fine."

Because hardly any medical treatment in existence is not without risks, there is a very tiny percentage of people who will have an allergic reaction to a vaccine. This is true of literally every vaccine ever devised, and societies have generally accepted the risk given the much more dire alternative of letting diseases rage unchecked. This does not appear as an item (4) on my list because it would have no detectable impact on excess mortality rates. It is just too insignificant a factor demographically.

Be assured that the cohorts that participated in the clinical trials of the vaccines in 2020 are still being monitored to this day, and there is at this writing no evidence whatsoever or any long(er)-term ill effects from the Covid vaccines.

@shavixmir said
Pointless post after pointless post.

Old Dive there pulled you up by your scrotal hair, everyone’s beat you about like a hairy-balled pinjata and, repeatedly, you’ve been dipped back down in a bowl of your own 💩.

And still you keep on posting.
You’re the Tucker Carlson of this forum.

shag doody for brains said:

"Pointless post after pointless post."

10% of shag doodys posts:

" 🥱 "

@kmax87 said
I'm laughing on the inside.

NZ Deaths

2015-2019 Average Deaths 32722 Base for calcing Excess deaths
2020 Total Deaths 32613 Excess deaths -109
2021 Total Deaths 34932 Excess deaths +2210
2022 Total Deaths 38574 Excess Deaths +5852

Up until 2023 the goobermint reports 3500 covid deaths. Roughly (don't get your knickers in a twist) that is 'roughly':

2200 + 5800 = 8000.

8000 - 3500 (deaths attributed to wuflu, no distinction vaxxed versus unvaxxed) = 4500

For a period they were recording 'with wuflu' as 'from wuflu' who knows why, fear porn? This came to a head when a guy shot by police was called a wuflu death and due to the public outcry the method for recording wuflu deaths was changed from 'with wuflu' to 'from wuflu'. So regardless of their 'methods' that's a jump of 4500 deaths for 2021 and 2022 combined.

Bonus question: 3500 deaths attributed to wuflu, what percentage of those do you think had the shot?

@soothfast said
With a bit more time on my hands at the moment, I will further thresh out the quoted post.

There is the idea of a baseline brought up by kmax87. That is the avenue toward a more meaningful analysis.

Are people dying "unexpectedly" (whatever that means) more now than before the pandemic? The answer could be no, and this is all down to crackpots now poring over obitua ...[text shortened]... is at this writing no evidence whatsoever or any long(er)-term ill effects from the Covid vaccines.

soothfast said:

"...and this is all down to crackpots now poring over obituaries like never before, with a studiousness they customarily apply to the funny papers, cherry picking every death they deem to be "unusual."

Some of the funniest obits:

"Riki, 60s, Dargaville, Died following his jab, the same day. In his wheelchair with a cup of tea. Medical centre alleged to have told family to keep quiet.

Roger, 63, of Northland. Died 2 days after 2nd jab this January.

Helena, also 63, of Remuera, died the night after her 2nd jab. Newspaper printed this then removed it. 9 day scene exam by Police but no charges laid. She managed rollout for a DHB.

Katie age 13. Died October 2021 in the arms of a camp helper about a week following her first jab. Cause of death myocarditis, initially diagnosed and treated as asthma by GP.

Allen Tardrew age 52. Bay of Islands. Especially poignant. Died 13 Dec 2021 First jab at pop up tent 1/11/21, noticed heart irregularity immediately, suffered Severe heart attack about 4.5 wks later. 2 days in hospital where he told Dr his suspicions but Dr disagreed, was released & died 3 days later. He asked friend to make his case heard when he died!

Susan age 41. Hokianga. Had first jab May 2021 and found dead in bed 4 days later. Cause of death 3 blood clots in L lung, blood clot in aorta. Coroner has just ruled “coincidental”.

Robert age 21. Northland. Died Oct 2021 1-2 days after jab. Cause of death brain bleed and cardiac arrest. Fit and healthy active man.

Paul age 52. Died Oct 2021 2 weeks after jab. Found dead in truck sleeper cab.

Simon age in his 50s. Usually healthy. Died suddenly at work in October 2021, of heart failure shortly after vaccination. Details of dates not available.

Aio age 16. Whangarei school girl. Died Dec 2021 2 weeks after jab from brain bleed and blood clots. Some hospital staff agreed privately that vaccine had killed her according to family members."

Sootfast, you're probably better going with the 'they're all liars' strategy.

@divegeester said
I’ve been out all day and you still can’t come up with a response to my post on page one.

I haven't been out all day, because it's morning here in NZ. Will let you know any changes.

@wajoma said
shag doody for brains said:

"Pointless post after pointless post."

10% of shag doodys posts:

" 🥱 "

They are exactly to the point. Retard.

@wajoma said
soothfast said:

"...and this is all down to crackpots now poring over obituaries like never before, with a studiousness they customarily apply to the funny papers, cherry picking every death they deem to be "unusual."

Some of the funniest obits:

"Riki, 60s, Dargaville, Died following his jab, the same day. In his wheelchair with a cup of tea. Medical centre all ...[text shortened]... to family members."

Sootfast, you're probably better going with the 'they're all liars' strategy.

🥱

@shavixmir said
Looks like Metal Brain and Wayoma were correct all the time.

https://nos.nl/artikel/2471835-meeste-verkeersdoden-sinds-2008-vooral-toename-onder-75-plussers

Lots of old people, who survived corona, but used vaccines are now dying in the Netherlands.

Traffic accidents.
Well, you don’t see many unvaccinated elderly people dying in traffic accidents nowadays, do you ...[text shortened]... . Proof that vaccines kill you on bicycles.

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Just in case: Metal Brain - I’m taking the piss.

Did they have heart attacks or blood clots while driving?

@metal-brain said
Did they have heart attacks or blood clots while driving?

He was making one of his jokes, dancing on the graves of those killed by the clotshot. Then his comedy buddy funny boy had some LOLs saying 'ah', 'ah', 'ah' a lot while abusing ellipses, then reporting to us that he was going out, then the cat lady made funnies with green cheese.

@wajoma said
NZ Deaths

2015-2019 Average Deaths 32722 Base for calcing Excess deaths
2020 Total Deaths 32613 Excess deaths -109
2021 Total Deaths 34932 Excess deaths +2210
2022 Total Deaths 38574 Excess Deaths +5852

Up until 2023 the goobermint reports 3500 covid deaths. Roughly (don't get your knickers in a twist) that is 'roughly':

2200 + 5800 = 8000.

8000 - 3500 (deaths a ...[text shortened]... onus question: 3500 deaths attributed to wuflu, what percentage of those do you think had the shot?

Thought up an intelligent reply to my post on page 1 yet?

@divegeester said
Thought up an intelligent reply to my post on page 1 yet?

shag doody for brains says:

"Of course not. He’s a fukking moron."

and:

" 🥱 "

and:

" 🥱 "

, but he didn't tell us he was going out.

@metal-brain said
Did they have heart attacks or blood clots while driving?

🙄

@wajoma said
soothfast said:

"...and this is all down to crackpots now poring over obituaries like never before, with a studiousness they customarily apply to the funny papers, cherry picking every death they deem to be "unusual."

Some of the funniest obits:

"Riki, 60s, Dargaville, Died following his jab, the same day. In his wheelchair with a cup of tea. Medical centre all ...[text shortened]... to family members."

Sootfast, you're probably better going with the 'they're all liars' strategy.

You have no credibility. All you do is make noise and throw dirt. I'm not going to wait for you to make a reasoned rebuttal, because the facts are simply not on your side.

@soothfast said
You have no credibility. All you do is make noise and throw dirt. I'm not going to wait for you to make a reasoned rebuttal, because the facts are simply not on your side.

I'm a liar, the people who have lost friends and families are liars, the organisation NZDSOS are liars.

The mysterious increase in excess deaths? Goobermint numbers, but they're lying too.