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31 Mar 23
Could it be that the video of his friendly visit with the capitol police, which all of the reasonable posters here have been railing about, was finally seen by someone other than the rabble rousers on this Forum?
We were right, of course. You fellers should get on board with reality.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11920455/QAnon-Shaman-Jacob-Chansley-released-early-prison-halfway-house-lawyer-says.html
31 Mar 23
@AverageJoe1 you maybe should've highlighted this bit from the article :
"a statement signed by signed by Chansley and his attorney contradicts the suggestion that he was 'escorted' by cops throughout the riot.
The statement admits that Chansley entered the Capitol through a broken door as part of a crowd that 'was not lawfully authorized to enter or remain in the building' and that he was one of the first 30 rioters inside.
It also notes that although officers asked Chansley and others multiple times to leave the Capitol, he did not comply and actively urged on his fellow rioters."
@cardiacsfan said"After Jan 6 footage shows him being escorted by cops..."
@AverageJoe1 you maybe should've highlighted this bit from the article :
"a statement signed by signed by Chansley and his attorney contradicts the suggestion that he was 'escorted' by cops throughout the riot.
The statement admits that Chansley entered the Capitol through a broken door as part of a crowd that 'was not lawfully authorized to enter or remain in the ...[text shortened]... rs multiple times to leave the Capitol, he did not comply and actively urged on his fellow rioters."
Uhhhh, the OP highlights this. That is apparently why they released him? Maybe you should have highlighted that. It's OK, I'm not upset.
You libs, esp the NYC DA with the little LGB circular beard, need to relax. You dig around as much as an armadillo.
Do the beard people use their wives' , or Paaaaarrtners', little LGB scissors to trim their beard in front of a mirror? That is what I am mulling in my mind when faced with having to talk to these men who do not have their feet on the ground. You got one, czardiacsfan?
31 Mar 23
@averagejoe1 saidNo. That's not why he was released. Legal system don't work that way.
"After Jan 6 footage shows him being escorted by cops..."
Uhhhh, the OP highlights this. That is apparently why they released him? Maybe you should have highlighted that. It's OK, I'm not upset.
You libs, esp the NYC DA with the little LGB circular beard, need to relax. You dig around as much as an armadillo.
Do the beard people use their wives' , or Paaaaarr ...[text shortened]... th having to talk to these men who do not have their feet on the ground. You got one, czardiacsfan?
@wildgrass saidAre you claiming the people on the parole board are unaware the CP calmly escorted him throughout the CB and decided he got a really raw deal? I say many of them knew, informed the others on the parole board and they all took it into consideration. Legal systems do work that way.
No. That's not why he was released. Legal system don't work that way.
@metal-brain saidVery good, and an example of not thinking things through , which is a standard liberal trait. Emotion takes over every time!!! Which leads to the Forum, which leads to angst, which leads to emotion .
Are you claiming the people on the parole board are unaware the CP calmly escorted him throughout the CB and decided he got a really raw deal? I say many of them knew, informed the others on the parole board and they all took it into consideration. Legal systems do work that way.
@metal-brain saidHe was due for early release like pretty much anyone convicted of most Federal felonies who keep their nose clean in prison.
Are you claiming the people on the parole board are unaware the CP calmly escorted him throughout the CB and decided he got a really raw deal? I say many of them knew, informed the others on the parole board and they all took it into consideration. Legal systems do work that way.
That right wingers think the Tucker Carlson farce had anything to do with that is just another example of their incredible gullibility.
31 Mar 23
@no1marauder saidHow much time was taken off his sentence for good behavior?
He was due for early release like pretty much anyone convicted of most Federal felonies who keep their nose clean in prison.
That right wingers think the Tucker Carlson farce had anything to do with that is just another example of their incredible gullibility.
31 Mar 23
@metal-brain saidStop lying. And stop believing Tucker Carlson.
Are you claiming the people on the parole board are unaware the CP calmly escorted him throughout the CB and decided he got a really raw deal? I say many of them knew, informed the others on the parole board and they all took it into consideration. Legal systems do work that way.
01 Apr 23
@suzianne saidSuzi, you and Marauder must understand what a panel is, they hear all the facts, which would include the video, which benefitted the Viking guy. Marauder suggests that they would not have let that video sway their decision. He implies that it would not have been before them when hearing any appeal. He suggests that the lawyers for Viking would not have included that in their pleadings or information presented.
Stop lying. And stop believing Tucker Carlson.
Tell us, how would you decide? Please, no words like gaslight or non sequitur
@metal-brain saidMad as a bloody hatter, you are.
Are you claiming the people on the parole board are unaware the CP calmly escorted him throughout the CB and decided he got a really raw deal? I say many of them knew, informed the others on the parole board and they all took it into consideration. Legal systems do work that way.
01 Apr 23
@averagejoe1 saidExcept his lawyer said nothing about the video when mentioning the factors which led to his release:
Suzi, you and Marauder must understand what a panel is, they hear all the facts, which would include the video, which benefitted the Viking guy. Marauder suggests that they would not have let that video sway their decision. He implies that it would not have been before them when hearing any appeal. He suggests that the lawyers for Viking would not have included that in th ...[text shortened]... rmation presented.
Tell us, how would you decide? Please, no words like gaslight or non sequitur
"Watkins wrote that he attributes the early release of Chansley — who walked the Capitol building wearing a horned headdress and paint — "to be a function of the U.S. Bureau of Prisons evaluating Mr. Chansley's eligibility for release based on the plea agreement, the sentence imposed, the model behavior of Mr. Chansley while confined, the programs he completed and a host of factors routinely taken into consideration by the U.S. Bureau of Prisons."
https://news.yahoo.com/qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-released-041925266.html
Note the word "routinely".
01 Apr 23
@no1marauder saidIs it OK that we not believe them? We don't believe y'all on the forum most of the time....so why can we not believe them?
Also:
"Chansley’s current lawyer also tweeted that the videos “DID NOT play a role in any “early release” for Jake Chansely.”
https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/03/j6-qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-secures-early-release-from-federal-prison/
I don't believe you, they surely had seen the video on the news. You are so gullible! I could scream!