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kmax87
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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Yes, just press the reason button.
that's one way to slice and dice your opposition!

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Originally posted by kmax87
I always thought you two to be the same person. One a mover and shaker in the belt way, the other a liberation theology Jesuit doing penance for colonial excess. Question is does it involve time portals or remote computers via vpn?


Originally posted by Scriabin - 14 Jan '09 16:51

So many chess players and so few able to apply the sam ...[text shortened]... h side along the same diagonal or file is another, more powerful piece providing cover.
FMF is what? A Jesuit priest?

And he rips me off like that here?

That's funny.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Wait a second. Are you implying the credit crisis is due to an excess of regulation?

In any case, I agree that the budget policy of the US is poor. I wonder if democracy is to blame, after all there isn't much to choose in terms of national policy in the US.
Yes the credit crisis is a result of over regulation, and bureaucracy to run that regulation..

Regulators during the Carter administration told banks they had to loan money to unqualified applicants. This policy was put on steroids by the Clinton administration making Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac government entities who would capitalize these bad loans. The stamp of government approval, and backing triggered a rush to these instruments, and the government then didn't hold anyone responsible, by bailing them all out to the tune of $700 billion, probably much more in the long run.

SS is demonstrative of the danger of democracy. It is the third rail of politics, because senior citizens are the largest and most reliable block of voters. Touching the Ponzi scheme that sends them a check every month is a guaranteed loser, even though every actuarial to look at the program says it is going broke, and can't meet even current obligations.

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pure democracy, and the smaller the better.

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Originally posted by Dace Ace
Please take a couple minutes and watch the link, then let me know if you agree or not?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7b0_1230952167
trouble is that you elect people who make decisions you dont agree with, then give themselves a pay rise

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Originally posted by eamon o
trouble is that you elect people who make decisions you dont agree with, then give themselves a pay rise
Did anyone watch and listen to the video which started this thread?

JeanTylerGabriel
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Democratic Socialism!!!

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Originally posted by Dace Ace
Please take a couple minutes and watch the link, then let me know if you agree or not?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7b0_1230952167
The best system of government out there from my perspective would be for the Messiah himself to come down to Earth and rule with a rod of iron!!! 😛

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Originally posted by normbenign
Did anyone watch and listen to the video which started this thread?
I did.

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Originally posted by Dace Ace
Please take a couple minutes and watch the link, then let me know if you agree or not?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7b0_1230952167
I'd like a government WITHOUT George W Bush in it!😏

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Originally posted by bill718
I'd like a government WITHOUT George W Bush in it!😏
now thats an idiotic statement isn't it?

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Originally posted by generalissimo
I did.
I wonder, reading a majority of the comments, if anyone else did.

To argue against the conclusions, one would seem to need to question the premises.

Central would be the "spectrum of government" from Total government on the left, to no government on the right. This is a logical and consistent way to pigeon hole government types. It eliminates the confusion, which I believe is intentional, of having Marxist/collectivist government types at both ends of the spectrum. That can hardly be consistent or logical.

Is there anyone who did view the video, that contests the premise of the the spectrum of government?

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Originally posted by Dace Ace
Please take a couple minutes and watch the link, then let me know if you agree or not?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7b0_1230952167
I think it has to do less with the type of government than it does who is running the government. On paper, pretty much any form of government should be able to work. It is then only a matter of execution.

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Originally posted by Wajoma
Is all corporatism (tm: FMF) bad? or just some?
All U.S. Presdients are, or have been, Corporatist Presedients. George H.Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Johnson, FDR. All of them. Their job is to manage the relationships between the Corporate entities. In helping the arms industry to work with the Pentagon to work with the security agencies to work with the oil industry to work with the environmental agencies and so on, he encourages 'nationwide stability'. If successful he will have indirectly eliminated interference from that rival system - citizen-based democracy - which technically maintains legal control over the constitutional structures of the Republic.

Corporatist leaders thus believe in the stable management of cooperation between interest groups, and that's all. It's not a question of policies or ethics. And, furthermore, these interest groups are devoid of the broad common sense required to see beyond short term self-interest. Without it they are little more than idiot savants, unable to avoid disasters and unable to understand why.

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Originally posted by FMF
All U.S. Presdients are, or have been, Corporatist Presedients. George H.Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Johnson, FDR. All of them. Their job is to manage the relationships between the Corporate entities. In helping the arms industry to work with the Pentagon to work with the security agencies to work with the oil industry to work with the environmental agencies ...[text shortened]... are little more than idiot savants, unable to avoid disasters and unable to understand why.
Why are you jealous?...it's not that bad...really.

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