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What form of government do you want?

What form of government do you want?

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Originally posted by dystoniac
Why are you jealous?...it's not that bad...really.
This thread has seen a lively discussion about capitalism, collectivism, republicanism, democray and corporatism. Got anything to contribue to it? Or are you just stalking me across the threads?

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Originally posted by FMF
This thread has seen a lively discussion about capitalism, collectivism, republicanism, democray and corporatism. Got anything to contribue to it? Or are you just stalking me across the threads?
I cannot answer your question as you refuse to answer mine; however, because of the duplicity of capitalism vs. kibutzism, the Israelis and Americans will never claim total control of the Jaffe orange. All US Presidents are from the school of regionalistic-thouth. Say, for example, a pre. is from Arizona, he/she will will have a disposition of a cactus...one from San Francisco will be deluded beyond hope...however, they ultimately triumph

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Originally posted by whodey
I think it has to do less with the type of government than it does who is running the government. On paper, pretty much any form of government should be able to work. It is then only a matter of execution.
Your statement, "who is running the government" is most important would indicate you favor a government of people over a government of laws.

Many would ask, What's the difference, as people are the ones who make and enforce the laws in every government. It is a matter of the levels of authority. If men or a man are the final arbiter, then no law means a thing. If the law takes precedence, then men even rulers are held in check.

Not that law ever should be unchangeable, but it ought not be so feeble it can be changed at a whim of a ruler or a simple majority.

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Originally posted by FMF
All U.S. Presdients are, or have been, Corporatist Presedients. George H.Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Carter, Johnson, FDR. All of them. Their job is to manage the relationships between the Corporate entities. In helping the arms industry to work with the Pentagon to work with the security agencies to work with the oil industry to work with the environmental agencies ...[text shortened]... are little more than idiot savants, unable to avoid disasters and unable to understand why.
I would agree that most if not all US Presidents since Woodrow Wilson have been corporatists, perhaps some before that.

Did you know that before Woodrow Wilson, only corporations and federal employees paid income taxes? The dubious passage of the 16th amendment, led to the first legal direct taxation of individuals. It was not that one method was better than the other to raise money to fund government. Individual direct taxation provided more power to the government to favor some individuals over others, to manipulate individuals by favored tax policy.

Prior to 1913, the US government was funded entirely by duties, tarriffs, imposts, excises, and corporate income taxes, all of which were ultimately included in the price of goods and services provided by corporations, and were paid voluntarily by consumers.

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I want benevolent despotism, with me in charge. Nothing less will do. 😏

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