05 Dec 20
@metal-brain said10,000 would not be enough to reverse the result. Biden's lead in MI is about 150,000.
I am doing just fine. What is evidence?
We already know voter fraud happens in the USA. How much does Trump need to prove to get a recount in MI? Even if he proves 10,000 votes were fraudulent you would claim that is not enough, right?
05 Dec 20
@sonhouse saidAgain, he never said that. Get the quote right.
@Metal-Brain
Tell me why Barr told Trump there was no widespread voter fraud?
So now your god king knows more than the Attorney's General.
And clearly YOU know more than the AG.
Clearly YOU should have therefore been AG.
YOU would straighten out all those disbelievers.
@metal-brain saidThe article is absurd Trump propaganda making outlandish, impossible claims many of which have already been laughed out of court.
Here is evidence of widespread voter fraud from Paul Craig Roberts. He lists all of his sources at the bottom of the article.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/proof-election-stolen/5730871
Georgia has already had a hand audit where every single ballot was examined. Of what possible use is any examination of the voting machines? None except to delay their use in the runoff election in three heavily Democratic counties where early voting is set to start December 14. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/04/georgia-says-sidney-powells-lawsuit-could-hinder-senate-runoff/3824577001/
05 Dec 20
@metal-brain saidBarr: "“to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.”
Again, he never said that. Get the quote right.
That means there is no legal basis to overturn the election as Trump's lawyers and allies have requested in lawsuit after failed lawsuit which are mostly cover for a fundraising campaign:
"Trump’s campaign has spent nearly $9 million on its unsuccessful bid to overturn the results of the election, including nearly $2.3 million to lawyers and consultants.
The campaign and the Republican National Committee have raised at least $207.5 million since Election Day, much of it from solicitations asking for donations to an “Official Election Defense Fund”.
The fine print made clear most of the money would go to other priorities through Trump’s new political action committee, which could fuel his future political endeavors."
https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-election-idUSKBN28E37D
05 Dec 20
@no1marauder saidStill in denial I see. Then let's go through PCR's list one by one.
The article is absurd Trump propaganda making outlandish, impossible claims many of which have already been laughed out of court.
Georgia has already had a hand audit where every single ballot was examined. Of what possible use is any examination of the voting machines? None except to delay their use in the runoff election in three heavily Democratic counties where ear ...[text shortened]... /news/politics/2020/12/04/georgia-says-sidney-powells-lawsuit-could-hinder-senate-runoff/3824577001/
https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/11/[WORD TOO LONG]/
05 Dec 20
@no1marauder saidBarr worked for the CIA.
Barr: "“to date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.”
That means there is no legal basis to overturn the election as Trump's lawyers and allies have requested in lawsuit after failed lawsuit which are mostly cover for a fundraising campaign:
"Trump’s campaign has spent nearly $9 million on its unsuccessful ...[text shortened]... fuel his future political endeavors."
https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-election-idUSKBN28E37D
A little reminder.
https://www.democracynow.org/2018/3/12/as_ex_cia_head_admits_to
05 Dec 20
@metal-brain saidI have no interest in wading through every allegation that Trump's lawyers presented in lawsuits that were dismissed (which is what 90% of the article is).
Still in denial I see. Then let's go through PCR's list one by one.
https://sharylattkisson.com/2020/11/[WORD TOO LONG]/
@metal-brain saidI think I see what you meant. 'How much fraud would have to be proven in order to overturn an election result?' This has already been answered, twice:
Then how much do you think it should be?
no1marauder: 'more tainted votes than the margin of victory.'
myself: In GA roughly 11,000, in WI roughly 20,000, in PA about 80,000, in MI about 150,000—these are Biden's current margins of victory in swing states.
So, to win the election, Trump would have to overturn the results in, for example, GA, PA, and WI to reach at least 270 EC votes. Add up the totals for those three states, that's how many cases of tainted ballots Trump would have to prove to a standard which stands up in court. That's over 100,000 allegedly tainted ballots which would have to stand up to court scrutiny. If Trump were to try to overturn the results in, for example, MI, PA, and one other state, he would need to prove about 250,000 ballots were illegal in those states.
06 Dec 20
@moonbus saidA recount would be required to expose that much election fraud.
I think I see what you meant. 'How much fraud would have to be proven in order to overturn an election result?' This has already been answered, twice:
no1marauder: 'more tainted votes than the margin of victory.'
myself: In GA roughly 11,000, in WI roughly 20,000, in PA about 80,000, in MI about 150,000—these are Biden's current margins of victory in swing states.
So ...[text shortened]... PA, and one other state, he would need to prove about 250,000 ballots were illegal in those states.
If Trump pays for the recount why are you opposed to that? There is no downside.
06 Dec 20
@no1marauder saidWhich article?
I have no interest in wading through every allegation that Trump's lawyers presented in lawsuits that were dismissed (which is what 90% of the article is).
06 Dec 20
@metal-brain saidTrump doesn't want recounts.
A recount would be required to expose that much election fraud.
If Trump pays for the recount why are you opposed to that? There is no downside.
It's too late to request one in Michigan anyway.