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@wildgrass said
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Your link says Jurassic was 5-10 degrees celsius warmer than now, on average, and it was very wet and humid.

Hot and wet!
How much warmer was the Pliocene than now? Same CO2 levels as today.
Let's compare the ratio of temps to CO2 levels of all three.

The Jurassic had 5 times the CO2 as we have now and 5 times the CO2 in the Pliocene.

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@wildgrass said
The deleted one.

Your link says Jurassic was 5-10 degrees celsius warmer than now, on average, and it was very wet and humid.

Hot and wet!
And life thrived.
Where is your doomsday scenario?

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@metal-brain said
And life thrived.
Where is your doomsday scenario?
We all move to Canada.

Eh?

Is that doomsday enough?

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@wildgrass said
We all move to Canada.

Eh?

Is that doomsday enough?
That is ridiculous.

We have about the same CO2 levels as the Pliocene Epoch. It was so warm all the glaciers melted. Life thrived then too.

https://climateilluminated.com/CO2_facts/carbon_lag/Vostok_800yr_lag_CO2.html

CO2 levels do not drive temperatures. Temperatures drive CO2 levels. That is why it is not as warm as the Pliocene. Volcanoes are the main driver of climate change. Look up the Jurassic ice age.

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@wildgrass said
The deleted one.

Your link says Jurassic was 5-10 degrees celsius warmer than now, on average, and it was very wet and humid.

Hot and wet!
I can’t believe you’re not allowed to write vaginal.

How the hell are you supposed to talk anout yeast infections, if you can’t??

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@metal-brain said
And life thrived.
Where is your doomsday scenario?
Life in those times was evolutionarily adapted to the higher CO2 and temperatures that prevailed then, genius. Humans and countless other contemporary species are not adapted to such a climate, nor can we painlessly adapt to such conditions were they thrust upon us in the span of just a few generations. Evolution works on timescales of hundreds of thousands or even millions of years.

There just aren't enough palms in the world for the facepalm that your simplistic blithering demands.

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@shavixmir said
I can’t believe you’re not allowed to write vaginal.

How the hell are you supposed to talk anout yeast infections, if you can’t??
Alas, I suggested some synonyms you could use, but they were shot down.

We should feel sorrow, but not sink under its oppression.
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@soothfast said
Life in those times was evolutionarily adapted to the higher CO2 and temperatures that prevailed then, genius. Humans and countless other contemporary species are not adapted to such a climate, nor can we painlessly adapt to such conditions were they thrust upon us in the span of just a few generations. Evolution works on timescales of hundreds of thousands or even millio ...[text shortened]... here just aren't enough palms in the world for the facepalm that your simplistic blithering demands.
That is not true. CO2 was 4 to 5 times higher than today, but that is still less than one half of one percent. We already know that greenhouses with added CO2 does not cause any problems.

The climate was not as warm during the Jurassic as you think. There were still cold winters and like now, the equator is not much warmer than areas just beyond the tropic of Cancer and Capricorn. The planet is over 70% covered with water. The warmer it gets the more water evaporates (which cools the surface of the water) causing cloud cover which is a natural self regulation to some extent.

Dinosaurs had feathers to insulate them from the cold winters during the Jurassic. It was warm, but not as warm as you are making it out to be.

https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/dinosaurs-among-us/feathers

Volcanoes are the main driver of climate change. Despite the high CO2 levels there was an ice age during the Jurassic.

https://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/18740/20151213/volcanic-event-triggered-ice-age-during-jurassic-period-researchers.htm

CO2 is not why the Jurassic was so warm. CO2 lagged behind temperatures is what the ice core samples proved. When global temperatures rise that causes atmospheric CO2 levels to rise because the ocean cannot hold as much CO2. The problem is that a whole generation of misinformed people believe in a backwards cause and effect because of Al Gore and people like him. Now we have a bunch of dumb ass scientists who think the Pliocene had high temperatures because CO2 caused it.

That is why scientists are so ass backwards. They keep pushing false cause and effect theories because they were influenced by Al Gores ass backwards propaganda. CO2 does not drive temperatures, temperatures drive CO2 levels.

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