21 Apr 05
Originally posted by MayharmActually, I have tried to understand your position, and then give an example of what I think you mean. I've made the effort to engage with you to get a true understanding of your position. You, on the other handhaven't adressed the question I raised. Who's running now?
[b]"So if I understand your position correctly (and I'm sure you'll let me know if I don't), "
In other words, you didn't bother to try understanding and you know it.
You're very proficient evasion skills coming to the fore again I think...you really must learn to stop running, it doesn't do you any good...
IF you think you ...[text shortened]... ng to bother re-phrasing it, I'm pretty confident I can rely on you not to even try)
MÅ¥HÅRM[/b]
21 Apr 05
Originally posted by PalynkaI'd bet everything I have that 100,000 people would not be dead in Iraq if 9/11 had been stopped. I wonder how many others feel the same ?
History is not rewritable.
You can't know what would happen with the world if the 9/11 attacks had been stopped, so all this discussion can lead to nowhere. Simply because you can always go back one more step, until the beginning of history.
All falls like a domino from there on. And if one piece had not fallen, the next ones wouldn't have fallen either.
22 Apr 05
Originally posted by STANGAn easy statement to make, that puts you at absolutely no risk at all.
I'd bet everything I have that 100,000 people would not be dead in Iraq if 9/11 had been stopped. I wonder how many others feel the same ?
How many ordinary Iraqis would have died under the Ba'athist regime? How many Kurds would have been persecuted? How many unfortunates would have been killed by Uday?
I don't know, but when making assessments of the impact of any action, one must weigh the likely impacts of that action not having happened - it seems only reasonable if you want to get the true picture.
22 Apr 05
Originally posted by ivangriceWell said Ivan.
An easy statement to make, that puts you at absolutely no risk at all.
How many ordinary Iraqis would have died under the Ba'athist regime? How many Kurds would have been persecuted? How many unfortunates would have been killed by Uday?
I don't know, but when making assessments of the impact of any action, one must weigh the likely impacts of that action not having happened - it seems only reasonable if you want to get the true picture.
but you are way too reasonalble.
The lovers of slavery want not reason. They want a return to ownership.
Stan is a slaver at heart. He's just too damned stubborn to admit it.
He's smart enough. Just not able.
But... c'est la vie eh?
he is a slaver. At the middle of his heart. He wants nothing more than order of power. That power being "ownership" of the righteous and able over the "lacking".
22 Apr 05
Originally posted by ivangrice100,000 plus American soldiers ?
An easy statement to make, that puts you at absolutely no risk at all.
How many ordinary Iraqis would have died under the Ba'athist regime? How many Kurds would have been persecuted? How many unfortunates would have been killed by Uday?
I don't know, but when making assessments of the impact of any action, one must weigh the likely impacts of that action not having happened - it seems only reasonable if you want to get the true picture.
22 Apr 05
Originally posted by ivangriceYes, I thought I could rely on you, nice to see I was right.
Actually, I have tried to understand your position, and then give an example of what I think you mean. I've made the effort to engage with you to get a true understanding of your position. You, on the other handhaven't adressed the question I raised. Who's running now?
I'm not running from anything, there was no need as your cannon was facing the wrong way. As you have made abundantly clear, you dont understand my position.
Let's get one thing straight, I see right through you...
You weren't trying to understand, you were trying to mock my position. You may not even have been aware that was what you were doing, if you weren't I suggest you take a moment to look at your question and see it for the utter baloney that it is.
In any case, your aim is atrocious; if your mocking really was a cannon you'd miss an elephant in an alleyway 😀
Well I'm still waiting runningman, whenever your ready... although I fully expect you'll respond out of anger again. Indeed I am so confident of this that I haven't bothered to be that harsh this time.
Please, feel free to suprise me though... 🙂
MÅ¥HÅRM
22 Apr 05
Originally posted by MayharmI appear to have upset you. I am genuinely trying to understand your view. You don't appear to want to explain it to me. No worries.
Yes, I thought I could rely on you, nice to see I was right.
I'm not running from anything, there was no need as your cannon was facing the wrong way. As you have made abundantly clear, you dont understand my position.
Let's get one thing straight, I see right through you...
You weren't trying to understand, you were trying to mock my po ...[text shortened]... bothered to be that harsh this time.
Please, feel free to suprise me though... 🙂
MÅ¥HÅRM
22 Apr 05
Originally posted by ivangriceNo, in fact you amuse me. 😀
I appear to have upset you. I am genuinely trying to understand your view. You don't appear to want to explain it to me. No worries.
You still aren't.
I have and will do so again, if you stop running.
You should be worried... you're still running.
MÅ¥HÅRM
22 Apr 05
Originally posted by STANGSo didn't people get the lesson when Cain slew Abel? What's worse 6000 deaths or one? Mankind (yes even you and me) is a liar and a warmonger!
[b]So didn't people get the lesson from Vietnam ?!?!?
It's OK to make a mistake once.
Making it twice is stupidity or evil.