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What's up with North and South Korea?

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Originally posted by Wajoma
It is never reasonable to act unreasonably, we don't need to define 'reasonable', and we don't have to define 'define'. It was a self defeating statement by KN he's on a bad run tonight.
In an absolute sense I would have to agree with you, but in a practical sense unreasonable behavior seems to be an endemic part of human nature, so what strategies should one use when confronted by someone who does not support the worldview of unreasonable behavior being inappropriate?

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Originally posted by shavixmir
As with most problems in the world. The whole Korean situation has something to do with US intervention.
Genius observation, it certainly couldn't have anything to do with North Korea's aggression or China's intervention.

Somehow it's just gotta be all America's fault..

Hey how's your Dutch conscience doing with that WW2 thing and what you did to all the Dutch jews?

I bet you'd a been at the head of the line to turn in anyone you knew, like the good little Stalinite you are.

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Originally posted by utherpendragon
Its reasonable to threaten a nuclear strike on "South Korea and beyond"?
I did not say they should threaten a nuclear strike.

Are you saying they already did?
What are you saying?

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
I did not say they should threaten a nuclear strike.

Are you saying they already did?
What are you saying?
Yes.Thats what I am saying.

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North Korea threatens South with nuclear war
AP
Monday, 13 December 2010

North Korea warned today that US-South Korean co-operation could bring nuclear war to the region.

The warning came as the South began artillery drills amid lingering tension nearly three weeks after the North's deadly shelling of a South Korean island.

The South's naval live-fire drills are due to run until Friday at 27 sites.

The regularly-scheduled exercises are getting special attention following a North Korean artillery attack on front-line Yeonpyeong Island that killed two South Korean marines and two civilians.

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Originally posted by utherpendragon
[b]North Korea threatens South with nuclear war
AP
Monday, 13 December 2010

North Korea warned today that US-South Korean co-operation could bring nuclear war to the region.

The warning came as the South began artillery drills amid lingering tension nearly three weeks after the North's deadly shelling of a South Korean island.

The Sout ...[text shortened]... attack on front-line Yeonpyeong Island that killed two South Korean marines and two civilians.[/b]
That is not really a threat. It is not clear who would strike first in the statement.

I do think that the South would never choose this course without US support. I'm sure the North sees the same thing.

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Originally posted by Metal Brain
That is not really a threat. It is not clear who would strike first in the statement.

I do think that the South would never choose this course without US support. I'm sure the North sees the same thing.
Okay. Its not really a threat. You seem to be the only person in the world to believe that but its okay by me. The following is from the Wall Street Journal 16 hours ago.

SEOUL—North Korea warned Friday that it would attack South Korea more violently than it did last month if Seoul proceeds with plans to test-fire artillery from the island Pyongyang shelled.

The statement raises the stakes on what was already seen as a risky test of the fortitude of both Koreas to dispute the inter-Korean maritime border. Officials in the U.S., Russia and at the United Nations Friday expressed concern that the situation on the Korean peninsula could escalate out of control.

The Korean People's Army said in a statement relayed by the North's state media that its response this time "will be deadlier than what was made on Nov. 23 in terms of the powerfulness and sphere of the strike."

Four South Koreans died, including two civilians, when North Korea fired approximately 170 artillery rounds on Yeonpyeong, an island in the Yellow Sea just a few miles away from the North Korean coastline.

North Korea's latest statement also reiterated North Korea's claim of waters that have long been controlled by South Korea near Yeonpyeong and four other islands. North Korea said South Korea and the U.S. "had better cogitate" about its warning.

South Korea's military and government didn't immediately respond.

The South Korean military announced Thursday it would again stage its monthly artillery test from a marine post on Yeonpyeong sometime between Saturday and Tuesday, depending on weather and other conditions.

South Korea wants to assert its hold of islands and water it has controlled since the end of the Korean War in the 1950s, but Seoul officials and the public are wary of actions that would escalate the matter into a broader conflict.

Officials in the U.S., South Korea's closest military ally since the Korean War, also worry about retaliation spiraling, and held meetings with senior Chinese and Russian leaders.

In Beijing, Deputy Secretary of State James Steinberg met Thursday with China's top foreign affairs official, State Councilor Dai Bingguo. In Moscow, Russia's Foreign Ministry on Friday summoned the U.S. and South Korean ambassadors to warn against the test firing.

Still, the Obama administration stressed that it stood behind South Korea's right to conduct its military exercises. Washington again turned up pressure on Beijing and Moscow to do more to constrain North Korea.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
As with most problems in the world. The whole Korean situation has something to do with US intervention.
You mean the part where at least half of Korea has food?

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Originally posted by utherpendragon
[b]Okay. Its not really a threat. You seem to be the only person in the world to believe that but its okay by me. The following is from the Wall Street Journal 16 hours ago.

SEOUL—North Korea warned Friday that it would attack South Korea more violently than it did last month if Seoul proceeds with plans to test-fire artillery from th ...[text shortened]... ned up pressure on Beijing and Moscow to do more to constrain North Korea.
That is not a nuclear threat.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
You mean the part where at least half of Korea has food?
LOL yep...the Southern half....what's up with that?

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
LOL yep...the Southern half....what's up with that?
It's called turning plowshares into swords. The north is starving so they have to put on a blustery show of force. Of course it still is irresponsible of the South to conduct exercises right on the border. There is absolutely no reason for that except saber rattling. They both are acting like belligerent school kids.

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The press keeps talking about how the North is sabre rattling in an attempt to shore up power for the new kid. I don't really get it. It's the father demonstrating his power - not the kid demonstrating his own power. What happens when Kim Jong-un finally takes up the position of "Supreme Leader". He'll need to outdo his dad to show people he's a tough leader.

How do you outdo the sinking of S. Korean ships and shelling of S. Korean civilians?

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South Korea brings school children to the island used for military exercises.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101224/ap_on_re_as/as_koreas_clash

It is as if they are using them as human shields and a propaganda tool if the North follows through. Shockingly low!

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