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Suzianne
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"Far-Right Infiltrators and Agitators in George Floyd Protests: Indicators of White Supremacists"

https://www.justsecurity.org/70497/far-right-infiltrators-and-agitators-in-george-floyd-protests-indicators-of-white-supremacists/

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There is no doubt that there are lurkers among the protesters.
To say that the peaceful protesters were goaded into doing damage is a real stretch.

Federal officers are in 3 cities but protesters have attacked federal courts in
8 cities. Federal courts? How can this be? The killing of George Floyd had
nothing to do with the feds, lest we forget what these protests started out
being. And 8 weeks later the protests and destruction still go on?? Please.

As far as I am concerned, the antia and BLM-ers have shifted their efforts in a
concerted effort, led by their Marxist leaders, that's obvious.

The BLM-ers and antifas are Marxists and they are attempting a revolution
whether they know it or not.

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@earl-of-trumps said
There is no doubt that there are lurkers among the protesters.
To say that the peaceful protesters were goaded into doing damage is a real stretch.

Federal officers are in 3 cities but protesters have attacked federal courts in
8 cities. Federal courts? How can this be? The killing of George Floyd had
nothing to do with the feds, lest we forget what these prot ...[text shortened]... BLM-ers and antifas are Marxists and they are attempting a revolution
whether they know it or not.
Earl, when you meet a Marxist, they'll likely tell you they're a Marxist. Especially when asked. The monsters under your bed are likely unaffiliated boogeymen of the old school variety.

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@earl-of-trumps said
There is no doubt that there are lurkers among the protesters.
To say that the peaceful protesters were goaded into doing damage is a real stretch.

Federal officers are in 3 cities but protesters have attacked federal courts in
8 cities. Federal courts? How can this be? The killing of George Floyd had
nothing to do with the feds, lest we forget what these prot ...[text shortened]... BLM-ers and antifas are Marxists and they are attempting a revolution
whether they know it or not.
Not reading the article, obviously.

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@Suzianne

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53579099?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.com/news/world/us_and_canada&link_location=live-reporting-story

There is a viciously ugly element on the right-wing fringe of American society which hardly has a parallel in Europe (with the exception of the former East Germany), which I might characterize as 'the political wing of football hooligans.'

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@earl-of-trumps said
There is no doubt that there are lurkers among the protesters.
To say that the peaceful protesters were goaded into doing damage is a real stretch.

Federal officers are in 3 cities but protesters have attacked federal courts in
8 cities. Federal courts? How can this be? The killing of George Floyd had
nothing to do with the feds, lest we forget what these prot ...[text shortened]... BLM-ers and antifas are Marxists and they are attempting a revolution
whether they know it or not.
There was always a risk that BLM would get hijacked by people with a different agenda.

What is it you think is Marxist about it now? I don't see anything in it that looks particularly Marxist.

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@soothfast said
Earl, when you meet a Marxist, they'll likely tell you they're a Marxist. Especially when asked. The monsters under your bed are likely unaffiliated boogeymen of the old school variety.
You're a Marxist, yes?

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@moonbus said
There was always a risk that BLM would get hijacked by people with a different agenda.

What is it you think is Marxist about it now? I don't see anything in it that looks particularly Marxist.
Well, moonbus, the three leaders of BLM are well studied, pronounced marxist. Fact.

Here is what I see that shows them off for what they are:

In the US, the police are NOT federal. The feds had nothing to do with the murder of George Floyd. Yet 50+ days later, here we are watching BLM, antifa attack federal buildings, courthouses in 8 cities, most where there are no fed
troops. And there is no end in sight. BLM is pushing this and they are bankrolled
to the tune of $1 billion.

They are PUSHING for a revolution against the feds, of course. That was
BLM's hidden aim. A coordinated attack against the United States.

Meanwhile, everyone thinks that their purpose is to work for justice for the
African Americans.

I admit, I fell for it for a while.

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@earl-of-trumps said
Well, moonbus, the three leaders of BLM are well studied, pronounced marxist. Fact.

Here is what I see that shows them off for what they are:

In the US, the police are NOT federal. The feds had nothing to do with the murder of George Floyd. Yet 50+ days later, here we are watching BLM, antifa attack federal buildings, courthouses in 8 cities, most where there ar ...[text shortened]... purpose is to work for justice for the
African Americans.

I admit, I fell for it for a while.
Is your boogeyman still George Soros? Please.

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@suzianne said
Is your boogeyman still George Soros? Please.
This is not persuasive to me because I think it is very relevant when the Left brings up the Koch brothers.

It's a legitimate sort of attack.

Why wouldn't bringing up the political financing & astroturfing be a legitimate attack or criticism?

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@philokalia said
This is not persuasive to me because I think it is very relevant when the Left brings up the Koch brothers.

It's a legitimate sort of attack.

Why wouldn't bringing up the political financing & astroturfing be a legitimate attack or criticism?
Soros recently gave $220 Million to "BLM groups". And that is not the first time
Soros has donated to BLM.

Some people don't like the truth.

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@earl-of-trumps said
Soros recently gave $220 Million to "BLM groups". And that is not the first time
Soros has donated to BLM.

Some people don't like the truth.
I repeat, "SO WHAT?"

BLM clearly has a liberal agenda. Republicans generally don't push for "black rights". Do you honestly think Soros should donate money to right-wing causes? Why must you criminalize any organization Soros donates to? Doesn't he have a right to donate his money to whom he wants?

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@Suzianne Why must you criminalize any organization Soros donates to?

Because Soros is a master criminal that is pushing his revolution agenda with
antifa and other such violent groups. It also helps expose Soros for being
exactly what I accuse him of. Two birds of a feather. Enjoy them.

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@philokalia said
This is not persuasive to me because I think it is very relevant when the Left brings up the Koch brothers.

It's a legitimate sort of attack.

Why wouldn't bringing up the political financing & astroturfing be a legitimate attack or criticism?
When was the last time you saw the Koch brothers mentioned on this website?

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@suzianne said
I repeat, "SO WHAT?"

BLM clearly has a liberal agenda. Republicans generally don't push for "black rights". Do you honestly think Soros should donate money to right-wing causes? Why must you criminalize any organization Soros donates to? Doesn't he have a right to donate his money to whom he wants?
Elements of both Antifa and BLM are clearly criminal, Soros donating does not make it so, their actions do.
And, why would a extraordinarily rich man support liberal causes, seems like a conflict of interest. Unless off course you realize that the dems are all about money.
In the end it is not simply about the money, it is about the gap, and that would suit most of the top 0.01%ers. like Georgy boy.
The elite create illusions on both sides. Left and right. Some elite are left, some are right, they would predominantly be about what power they can derive from any stated position. Both are bad.

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