@earl-of-trumps saidI think the biggest outstanding question at this point is not "who hired the movers?" but "why didn't he give them back when asked?"
Finally got an answer to this, it was the GSA (General Services Administration)
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/22/sources-gsa-packed-boxes-documents-trump-took-mar-a-lago-not-political-staffers/
Sources: GSA Packed Boxes of Documents Trump Brought to Mar-a-Lago, Not Trump Political Staffers
[i]Shortly after the FBI raided Mar-a-Lago this m ...[text shortened]... ong that Trump had the documents.
Get it out of your head that Trump "stole" the documents, fool.
@soothfast saidI don't defend guilty parties, but you are entitled to your lying opinion.
Based on your historical modus operandi I very much doubt that. More likely you're attempting to employ some kind of Socratic method that's intended to guide us all to the "truth" that Trump is innocent of all wrongdoing.
"Socratic method"- lol, please, soothfast.
Anyway, SF, do you have any idea how Trump got all of these documents out of Washington DC?
- or why it took a year for the National archives to start reclaiming these documents?
- or why they had no clue that Trump had more unreturned documents until a snitch told them?
You see no problems there, Soothfast?
@wildgrass saidIf the United States Government cooperated with Trump in moving the documents to Mar-a-Lago,
I think the biggest outstanding question at this point is not "who hired the movers?" but "why didn't he give them back when asked?"
then it is certainly implied that Trump was NOT breaking the law simply by having the documents in his possession.
It certainly makes the National Archives look like a ship of fools. They can't keep track of America's most important documents?
Shame on them, not Trump. The head of the National Archives should be put on trial as a security threat, for gawd's sake.
@earl-of-trumps saidPrithee, apprise me of what I am lying about. I think you do not know the meaning of the word. Can there even be such a thing as a "lying opinion," if the opinion reflects an earnest conviction?
I don't defend guilty parties, but you are entitled to your lying opinion.
"Socratic method"- lol, please, soothfast.
Anyway, SF, do you have any idea how Trump got all of these documents out of Washington DC?
- or why it took a year for the National archives to start reclaiming these documents?
- or why they had no clue that Trump had more unreturned documents until a snitch told them?
You see no problems there, Soothfast?
So, when did you decide that the federal government is such a lithe, swift, well-oiled paragon of efficiency that you find it apt to question it taking a year for the National Archives to come for the documents? I imagine if they took only a week or a month you would be accusing them of being suspiciously hasty.
Yeah, a snitch tipped off the National Archives. So what? It sped things up some, for sure. Somehow this invalidates Trump's apparent culpability in your blinkered eyes? Oh, wow. Cry Trump a river, you poor soul.
I see no problems but one: Trump still remains outside of prison. Until such time as he is in prison, for life, he's free to move about the country plotting another coup attempt. That is a serious problem for democracy.
@wildgrass saidThis is true! I'm not even bringing that up here, because it is criminal enough that Trump stole nuclear secrets in the first place, and I'm unwilling to give ground even an inch on that point. The Orange Scumbag is normalizing criminality in everything he does, and I'm flatly in no mood to let the original sin slide, once again, just for the convenience of aiming at the even bigger target of willful obstructionism.
I think the biggest outstanding question at this point is not "who hired the movers?" but "why didn't he give them back when asked?"
Nonetheless you bring up a worthy conundrum for Earl to plop down on a toadstool and ponder. He'll in time come back with "questions" about the matter that anyone with a central nervous system should be able to perceive as the usual conspiratorial brain farts.
@earl-of-trumps saidLots of fools to go around that's for sure. I just don't get why he didn't say 'oops sorry officer I didn't know I couldn't do that.'
If the United States Government cooperated with Trump in moving the documents to Mar-a-Lago,
then it is certainly implied that Trump was NOT breaking the law simply by having the documents in his possession.
It certainly makes the National Archives look like a ship of fools. They can't keep track of America's most important documents?
Shame on them, not Trump. The head of the National Archives should be put on trial as a security threat, for gawd's sake.
That's what I do every time I get caught drag racing a teenager through a school zone anyway.
We've been through a whole lifetime worth of excuses by now. They didn't exist. They were planted evidence. They weren't classified. They were harmless. Anthony Fauci and Greta thunberg's dad ratted me out to hide their intimate relationship. Lying or covering up and you end up investigated just like Hillary's emails and hunters **** pics. Stop whining and searching for excuses trump.
This whole fellago reminds me of the rhyme we used to sing as kids
“Who stole the chicken from the cookery pot,
Who me? Yes you! Not ! Then who?
Number 3 stole the chicken……
I always preferred it to 99 bottles sitting on the wall.
For relevance substitute top secret documents for chicken and
White House for cookery pot.
@soothfast said“Prithee” !? 😆
Prithee, apprise me of what I am lying about. I think you do not know the meaning of the word. Can there even be such a thing as a "lying opinion," if the opinion reflects an earnest conviction?
Forsooth, methinks the lady doth protest too much … for someone who claimeth not a Trump supporter she.
@soothfast saidwhen you can tell us how a singular person got out of a secure facility with 25 boxes of sensitive documents, let us know!
More pretzel-knot gymnastics in defense of Dear Leader. Absolutely fascinating.
@kevcvs57 saidLiar
A source close to the former president, oh well with such a reputable source I guess it’s game over for the DOJ and FBI they are sunk without a lifeboat 😂😂
Stop lying and stop being stupid, Trump is a traitor this much we know for certain, he’s also an oath breaker a serial liar and a thief, you pretending that he’s just another run of the mill POTUS who’s being persecuted for political reasons will not make it so.
@soothfast saidHey, wait a minute... your last post you were saying it was all pretzel twisting desperation defense or some such nonsense.
@Earl-of-Trumps
From the last two paragraphs at https://www.businessinsider.com/george-conway-trump-classifed-documents-fbi-mar-a-lago-raid-2022-8...
[quote]However, the GSA on Friday responded and said the onus rests with an administration on what is transported when a president leaves the Oval Office.
"The responsibility for making decisions about what materials ar ...[text shortened]... year now. Feigning ignorance of being in possession of classified docs at this point is laughable.
Now you accept the fact that the GSA moved the docs. Interesting,
How can this ever be!! doesn't the National Archives or the secure facility have a say here? When the BLEEP do they wake up???
@soothfast said@Soothfast said: "Prithee, apprise me of what I am lying about. "
Prithee, apprise me of what I am lying about. I think you do not know the meaning of the word. Can there even be such a thing as a "lying opinion," if the opinion reflects an earnest conviction?
So, when did you decide that the federal government is such a lithe, swift, well-oiled paragon of efficiency that you find it apt to question it taking a year for the National ...[text shortened]... e to move about the country plotting another coup attempt. That is a serious problem for democracy.
EARLIER:
@EoT said: "I am not trying to defend Donald Trump. I am trying to get to the total truth.
@Sootfast said "Based on your historical modus operandi I very much doubt that.
So you are calling me a regular liar.
The more I look at it, the more I realize I should have told you to go fook yourself back then.
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@earl-of-trumps saidYou would do well to reconsider your stance as a Trump apologist.
@EoT said: "I am not trying to defend Donald Trump. I am trying to get to the total truth.
@JJ-Adams
HEY IDIOT, it doesn't matter, the redacted warrant now shows some of those docs were found in his bedroom AND there was Trump's writing on them.
So tell us again how he had no knowledge of the possession of TS and higher docs.
MY only question is, who was he selling them to.
@Earl-of-Trumps
Just wait till Garland gets through with this TRAITOR.
NO OTHER POTUS EVER TOOK TS DOCS BEFORE and THAT is a FACT JACK.