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@vivify said
Well, there's more, shall we say, "baggage", in this union for the Scots than the British.
I actually live in Scotland and it’s about 50 50 as far as identifying as British Scottish or just Scottish but a 100% are proud Scots.
I’m British English and the joint identity feels natural enough even though I’m very proud of my English identity.
Anyone with roots in these Islands who pretends the empire was nothing to do with them is suffering from ‘slope’y shoulder syndrome’.
Obviously the further you go back the more responsibility the political and economic elite have for empire. For most of the period most brits didn’t even have the vote.

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Churchill was the right man at the right time. We remember him for that.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Churchill was the right man at the right time. We remember him for that.
The future fate of the European bloc was hanging in the balance and if it wasn’t for Churchill’s rallying leadership effectively causing Germany to expend a disproportionate effort to cross the English Channel, then the Nazis would probably have overrun Europe before the Americans realised that American interests were at stake and did what they did with the muscle.

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@ghost-of-a-duke said
I identify equally as an Englishman, a Brit, and a European.


Edit: To head off any confusion, we left the EU, not Europe.
I identify as H.sap.

To head off any confusion: I do not discriminate against Neanderthals or Denisovans.

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@divegeester said
The future fate of the European bloc was hanging in the balance and if it wasn’t for Churchill’s rallying leadership effectively causing Germany to expend a disproportionate effort to cross the English Channel, then the Nazis would probably have overrun Europe before the Americans realised that American interests were at stake and did what they did with the muscle.
I think you’ll find it was British resourcefulness and feeding intel to the Russians and the Russians using that intel and totally crushing the East front which actually won the war.

The Americans only sped up the nazi downfall.

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Certainly they did send intel from broken codes.

The German plans for Kursk were relayed to the USSR, for example.

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Duchess64 makes another hypocritical claim.

She knows very little about EoT's educational background. His online "character" informs her of nothing regarding his true international acumen. The same can be said for most members here.

Apparently, Duchess64 is too busy annotating "her files" as she pretends that no one recognizes her own exposure. Her inadequacies and shortcomings have been laid thread-bare due to her prolific over-posting.

Keep talking Duchess64.
And we'll continue observing. 🙂

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@shavixmir said
I think you’ll find it was British resourcefulness and feeding intel to the Russians and the Russians using that intel and totally crushing the East front which actually won the war.

The Americans only sped up the nazi downfall.
Time was what Britain did not have. Hitler already had rockets capable of hitting targets in Britain. Given time, he would would developed atomic weapons to put on them, and he would have done so.

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Channeling Duchess64's inner child:

"I feel like Donald J. Trump. People who say nice things about me are smart. People who say bad things about me are dumb. Teinosuke has agreed with me in the past, he's a good guy. Everyone else is stupid".

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