@no1marauder saidThere was a recount.
And lost. Unlike Hawaii in 1960, there was no court ordered recount or any relief granted to his campaign.
@metal-brain saidKeep saying the same thing over and over and over again; your point has been answered several times already.
@no1marauder
How was Trump responsible for the alternate electors breaking laws?
Did he hold a gun to their heads?
Do you support giving those alternate electors immunity for breaking the law while those who trespassed on Capitol grounds got none? You said the protestors were following Trump so he was responsible for their actions, but not the alternate electors?
...[text shortened]... lectors less guilty of doing Trump's bidding than the protesters who were let into the CB by the CP?
@metal-brain saidThe recounts were completed before December 14th, 2020 when the fake electors sent their fraudulent documents to the officials mentioned in the indictment. In fact, three recounts had been completed by December 7, 2020: https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/07/politics/georgia-recount-recertification-biden/index.html
There was a recount.
In 1960, Kennedy was already leading when the electors met to vote:
" On the day before the electors were set to vote, Kennedy's lead in the Hawaii recount of 95 1/2 precincts had risen to 96 votes. Kennedy had gained a total of 237 votes since the beginning of the recount. As a result, Circuit Judge Ronald B. Jamieson ordered a recount of all the state's 240 precincts.
http://www.leinsdorf.com/how_kennedy_won_hawaii.htm
If there were any "fake" electors in Hawaii 1960, they were the Republican ones.
@no1marauder
The Trump campaign also demanded an audit of the voter signatures that accompanied mail-in ballots in Georgia. Did he get it?
Trump requested and was granted a recount. There were recounts in both cases so that has nothing to do with it. The only difference was the result. If that is the determining factor just say so.
@metal-brain saidThe recounts were completed a week before the fake electors sent their fraudulent documents out.
@no1marauder
The Trump campaign also demanded an audit of the voter signatures that accompanied mail-in ballots in Georgia. Did he get it?
Trump requested and was granted a recount. There were recounts in both cases so that has nothing to do with it.
@no1marauder saidSo what? Were the 1960 recounts not completed before the democrat fake electors sent their documents out? What is your point? What was the deciding difference? Spit it out. It was the result, right?
The recounts were completed a week before the fake electors sent their fraudulent documents out.
@metal-brain saidThe difference is:
So what? Were the 1960 recounts not completed before the democrat fake electors sent their documents out? What is your point? What was the deciding difference? Spit it out. It was the result, right?
In 1960, the duly elected electors were the Kennedy ones and that was known by the time they voted to certify on December 14th.
In 2020, the election had already been decided, all recounts completed and the Trump electors knew that they were fakes.
@no1marauder saidThe Trump campaign also demanded an audit of the voter signatures that accompanied mail-in ballots in Georgia. Did he get it?
The difference is:
In 1960, the duly elected electors were the Kennedy ones and that was known by the time they voted to certify on December 14th.
In 2020, the election had already been decided, all recounts completed and the Trump electors knew that they were fakes.
@metal-brain saidWhat is your source of information? I don't see any such "demand" in any of the lawsuits filed.
The Trump campaign also demanded an audit of the voter signatures that accompanied mail-in ballots in Georgia. Did he get it?
And so what if they did or didn't? If no court granted them such relief, they were not legally entitled to ignore the election results and send fake electors.
@no1marauder
Georgia will audit the signatures on mail-in ballot envelopes in one suburban Atlanta county, Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R) said Monday, a process he hopes will restore confidence in the election after weeks of baseless fraud allegations — but the audit, proposed by President Trump’s allies, will not be able to track down or toss out any individual illegal votes.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2020/12/14/georgia-will-audit-random-sample-of-mail-in-ballot-signatures/?sh=7d9312f41135
That is how Saddam Hussein would have covered up voter fraud, but it happened in GA.
@metal-brain saidLMAO!
@no1marauder
Georgia will audit the signatures on mail-in ballot envelopes in one suburban Atlanta county, Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R) said Monday, a process he hopes will restore confidence in the election after weeks of baseless fraud allegations — but the audit, proposed by President Trump’s allies, will not be able to track down or toss out any indivi ...[text shortened]... 7d9312f41135
That is how Saddam Hussein would have covered up voter fraud, but it happened in GA.
Right.
@no1marauder
A random sample of only 1 county? That is your idea of fair?
Reminds me of Bush v. Gore and how only some counties were recounted.
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-georgia-elections-atlanta-presidential-elections-02c99b51b6d2befa42ae9ea0c72c1e3d
Courts are how election rigging is kept secret. How do you think dictators around the world rig elections? They use courts.
Now I know how to rig elections and get away with it. Rig fraudulent signatures in all counties in the state except 1 and have the court check them in only that 1 county. It is good enough for you. You accept it. Works pretty good, huh?
@wildgrass saidI know. That was the case for both of them. The only difference was the recount result, but the court only allowed signatures to be checked in 1 county in the whole state. That is not normal. If you want to prove election integrity you check all counties. Instead the court sowed deeds of doubt by restricting it to 1 county only.
The recounts and lawsuits were already finished.
@metal-brain saidYou could challenge in court, with evidence. Didn't happen though. The trump team opted to subvert government checks and balances which is illegal.
I know. That was the case for both of them. The only difference was the recount result, but the court only allowed signatures to be checked in 1 county in the whole state. That is not normal. If you want to prove election integrity you check all counties. Instead the court sowed deeds of doubt by restricting it to 1 county only.