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And you could give a CRAP about the past four DISASTEROUS years caused 100% by Trump, in his lying DAILY, to dissing our real allies and falling in love (HE SAID THAT) with dictators, LOVES Putin, and then there was Covid 19, which he not only ignored, but actively downplayed, it's just another flu and will soon go down to ZERO patients.

So how well did THAT ...[text shortened]... /supreme-court-rejects-gop-bid-to-overturn-pennsylvania-election-results/ar-BB1bKqcn?ocid=uxbndlbing
Here's a question that has never been asked of a liberal before...... Did Trump do ONE THING that could be considered a great or significant accomplishment for the betterment of the Country? One thing.? If you answer in the affirmative, can you follow up with WHY neither you nor your friends have ever acknowledged or applauded such an accomplishment before? And don't bore us with 'criminals and liars', as Hillary and Obama have offset that well enough.

Note: :To NOT answer in the affirmative will erode faith of the Forum in your future opinions. You know,...disingenuous. You know he did, Sonhouse. Bed-wetting time.

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While I have your attention, could you expound on your reference to 'disastrous' above? About 75M people ;might disagree with you, especially those whose lives were made better by the man who made America great again. I expect even Suzianne had a nice bump in her IRA. Hey, here is something you can think on, .....He made us energy independent , but that cannot be your answer, you have to have an original!!!!!

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@averagejoe1 said
Here's a question that has never been asked of a liberal before...... Did Trump do ONE THING that could be considered a great or significant accomplishment for the betterment of the Country? One thing.?
I really doubt it, nothing significant. Can you think of one... and explain why it's important?

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@averagejoe1 said
I expect even Suzianne had a nice bump in her IRA.
Remember, Joe, IRAs are just numbers until you cash them in.

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@AverageJoe1
It all boils down to money and Dow Jones averages.
You could care less AND refuse to even MENTION the FACT JACK Trump said the virus will go away and we will soon have zero cases.
We now know he was told in JANUARY about how deadly this virus is and is airborne. In SPITE of that he goes 'I didn't want to cause panic' which is utter BULLSHTYE. The real deal is he was, is and always will be above his ability to even comprehend much less take a real leadership role and start a NATIONAL effort to coordinate emergency powers to have companies make PPE and so forth.
HE NEVER DID THAT and you know that full well but STILL adore this snake in the grass.


So now we have 15 MILLION infected here and pushing THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DEATHS.

But of course THAT means nothing to you with ZERO empathy, just like your god king.
Your problem is you don't recognize competence when you see it in Biden and there is NONE from Trump.

Trump was, is, and WILL ALWAYS be a LOSER.
He had 6 bankruptcies which you pawn off as just business, everyone has bankruptcies you say, but there was only ONE person in the US whose DADDY gave him a HALF BILLION to cover his mistakes in business.

His bankruptcies were TERRIBE and NOBODY except That duchebag bank is the ONLY one giving him money and now we see it was RUSSIAN money laundered to go to that bank to give Trump money.

And I fully expect you to distract into ANYTHING else to hide the fact Trump is a criminal AND treasonous.

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@handyandy said
I really doubt it, nothing significant. Can you think of one... and explain why it's important?
Here's a softball, mentioned above. Energy independence. Ha! Did you ask why??????? WHY!!?!?!?

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Remember, Joe, IRAs are just numbers until you cash them in.
I have no idea what that means, but some smarter people reinvest, they do not 'cash them in'....except for requirement after certain age, when a certain percentage MUST be taken out.

Hint: Leave it in, be the envy of the guys at the lodge !

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@averagejoe1 said
Here's a question that has never been asked of a liberal before...... Did Trump do ONE THING that could be considered a great or significant accomplishment for the betterment of the Country? One thing.? If you answer in the affirmative, can you follow up with WHY neither you nor your friends have ever acknowledged or applauded such an accomplishment before? And don' ...[text shortened]... um in your future opinions. You know,...disingenuous. You know he did, Sonhouse. Bed-wetting time.
Hey...................Sonhouse,,,,,,come down to earth. What you wrote is ad nauseam, and does NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOVE. Why, I am going to call you out if you do not answer the question!!!!!!

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Well lets see, I guess from YOUR POV it is just business as usual to rip infants from mom's arms and don't EVEN try to deny that, there is actual VIDEO and now still over 600 children locked up in cages and don't even TRY the 'the cages were built by Obama' BS. Those cages were NEVER meant to incarcerate CHILDREN.

But of course THAT means nothing to you.

The nearest thing to good he did was stepping into NK territory but he got NOWHERE with that, Kim Jon Un is building up missiles and has FOR SURE not given up on nukes.

You figure it was a good thing for Trump to be dissing our real allies while heaping praises on PUTIN and Un?

I'm quite sure you figure the best thing he ever did was give the multi trillion dollar bribe to big business but it was just that: A BRIBE which worked wonders but there was no trickle down, the companies getting all those hundreds of BILLIONS just used that to do stock buy backs.

The little guy got JACK.

I suppose it was a good thing to be saying during his campaign 'Obama spends all his time on the golf course' while now it has been shown conclusively he spends about TWICE what any other POTUS ever did on golf.

And now he is talking about 'pre-emptive pardons for such great Americans as Guliani and his kids.

AND wants to pardon himself.

I hope he DOES since he will be in legal trouble because there is NOTHING in the constitution saying it was ok for a POTUS to pardon himself SINCE THAT WOULD BY DEFINITION put him above the law.

Then there was the FACT JACK Trump STOLE 4 BILLION from the MILITARY budget to try to get more wall built.


Whatever good YOU think Trump did pales to his absolute incompetence and thinking he could run the country ALL BY HIMSELF and SCREW the team of experts he called STUPID.

AND you must remember when Trump made fun of a journalist with disabilities.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-condemned-for-mocking-journalist-s-disability-during-campaign-speech-a6749346.html

Just in case you think THAT is fake news, there is the video of this CREEP mocking a disabled journalist.
And you somehow think Trump is a real person?

You say 'ad nauseum' but the fact is you cannot even go to the links I provided.

I knew we were in trouble on day one of his presidency when he tried but failed to kill the Senate ETHICS COMMITTE.

And then there is the inauguration scam

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/02/05/trumps-inauguration-under-scrutiny-fraud-money-laundering-talker/2777822002/

So why don't you tell ME of his fantastic accomplishments as POTUS?

Do you think it's ok for Trump to have fired ALL the senior officials in the Pentagon and put in his own inexperienced trump sycophants whose JOB is to keep the Biden transition team from even TALKING to Pentagon intel folks?

Do you think I am lying about THAT?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/politics/pentagon-policy-official-resigns/index.html

WITHIN A COUPLE OF MONTHS OF A NEW POTUS.

Just what we need for national security.

Adversaries LOOK for failures like that so they can figure out tactics to amp up the attacks on the US or US personnel overseas.

But OF COURSE you justify all those firings as just making the Pentagon stronger, which is utter BULLSHYTE. He did it to screw up the transition any way he can.

Find some OTHER sucker to see ANY good Trump did for the US.

He is a would-be dictator, and if you don't believe that, look at the number of folks he forced to sign a LOYAL TO TRUMP AND TRUMP ONLY.
THAT IS WHAT DICTATORS DO, not actual human beings as POTUS.
He is a CARICATURE of a human, he has ZERO empathy for anyone but folks named Trump. Well except for his Phd Niece Mary Trump and OF COURSE everything SHE said is all lies, since your god king could NEVER be like she said.

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@sonhouse - Well lets see, I guess from YOUR POV it is just business as usual to rip infants from mom's arms and don't EVEN try to deny that, there is actual VIDEO and now still over 600 children locked up in cages and don't even TRY the 'the cages were built by Obama' BS. Those cages were NEVER meant to incarcerate CHILDREN.

what a bull chit artist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"oh, look at the great me, I am so concerned about the poor, the elderly, the CHILDREN"


you're as phony as the day is long. You never cared about "the CHILDREN" when Obama caged them like animals.

we've been here before, useless as tits on a bull

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If you were in my face you would see just how much I HATE the idea of children in cages. YOU could fukking care less, THAT is obvious.

And I note you said NOTHING about the other charges backed up by video like the time Trump mocked a journalist with disabilities.

Just joking, right?

Or you saying NOTHING about the firing of all those Pentagon high officials for the express purpose of screwing up the transition team where they were ORDERED BY TRUMP to put a monkey wrench in the transition team talking to intel folks and I already said why that is bad, VERY bad, but to you just normal business for a corrupt POTUS.

Then there is the anti-science stance of Trump, no such thing as man made climate change when the evidence is overwhelming.
But I assume you have the same anti science stance as Trump since you clearly admire him so much.

He disses wearing masks and now has paid the price, his buddy Guliani is sick with Covid as we speak, no doubt given to him by Trump himself which he also gave to his own family.

Yep a REALLY responsible dude.

You are one offensive SOB.

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@sonhouse said
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If you were in my face you would see just how much I HATE the idea of children in cages. YOU could fukking care less, THAT is obvious.

And I note you said NOTHING about the other charges backed up by video like the time Trump mocked a journalist with disabilities.

Just joking, right?

Or you saying NOTHING about the firing of all those Pentagon high ...[text shortened]... hich he also gave to his own family.

Yep a REALLY responsible dude.

You are one offensive SOB.
We got it, Sonhouse. I have always wanted to know what you think about stuff!!!!! For the record, everyone, Sonhouse failed to name ONE thing good that Trump did. You have had quite an uncomfortable 4 years, I had no idea. I hope you find happiness with Kamala's programs. Man, is she gonna love your jet. I hope you are not into carbon emission issues!!!!!!!

So. Can any other liberals on this thread pick up the slack left by Sonhouse, did Trump do anything good??

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@averagejoe1 said
I have no idea what that means, but some smarter people reinvest, they do not 'cash them in'....except for requirement after certain age, when a certain percentage MUST be taken out.

Hint: Leave it in, be the envy of the guys at the lodge !
I guess you weren't around in 2008 when a lot of IRAs crashed and investors preparing to retire took a severe hit.

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@averagejoe1 said
Here's a softball, mentioned above. Energy independence. Ha! Did you ask why??????? WHY!!?!?!?
Don't get emotional, Joe. It's frowned upon in GOP circles.

I don't agree that Trump achieved "energy independence." Tell me how you think he did it.

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@averagejoe1 said
Here's a softball, mentioned above. Energy independence. Ha! Did you ask why??????? WHY!!?!?!?
"In 2019, the United States imported about 9.14 million barrels per day (MMb/d) of petroleum from about 90 countries."

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=727&t=6#:~:text=In%202019%2C%20the%20United%20States,(including%20ethanol%20and%20biodiesel).

Perhaps you could explain what you mean by "Energy independence" and what specific policies of Trump's that differed from prior administrations that led to this "energy independence".

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