31 Jul 04
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Originally posted by StarValleyWyNice idea, but wrong. There are plenty of examples of people who do things for others without a thought of recognition or what they can get out of it. Just because this is the way that you live, doesn't mean it is the way that all others do. Look around you and open your eyes. Many people do look for recognition because of the poor way that their parents brought them up, which led to a lack of self esteem. However those who are at ease with themselves don't need others to constantly tell them how good they are.
Not much you know about. We have this discussion over the last year and a half about the nature of man as related to our closest relative the Chimpanze.
You are too new to RHP to have been involved in the discussion. Obviously.
S ...[text shortened]... it's cost in "chimp credits".
and on and on and on.
Mike
By the way - have I told you how clever you are lately?
01 Aug 04
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Originally posted by ianpickeringHere is your perfect chance to shine then.
Nice idea, but wrong. There are plenty of examples of people who do things for others without a thought of recognition or what they can get out of it.
By the way - have I told you how clever you are lately?
Outside of the family group, name a few examples OF PEOPLE ORGANIZING to accomplish tasks or have fun or anything that do not consist of "leader(s) and follower(s)".
I will await a SINGLE EXAMPLE. But will be really impressed if you name "plenty" as per your post here quoted.
Even an internet chess sight has more fun and meaning (apparently) when it breaks into "clans". True? What do you call the leader of your clan, ian? Just wondering.
What is the title of the leader of the "Gardening Club" in your neighborhood called? "The President" or the 'Chairperson'? And does that gardening club have a vice chair and a secretary? I wonder why.
A Short List of human organizations:
Religion
Government
Education
Military
Political
Recreation
Business
Monetary
"Movements" (whatever those are... probably co-equally defined as "Revolution"😉
All seem to follow the "Chimp" pattern of "leader/follower". Isn't that a strange coincidence?
The only exception seems to be family. Therein you do get acts of love with no need/desire of gaining credit.
Volunteers in a good cause? Give me a break. The most vicious power struggles you will ever see or imagine are those that define ownership/leadership of charities. If you doubt it... join a few charity organizations or start one yourself even... and try to become the president. Good luck.
<edit> oh yeah. I seem to have noticed something about my cleverness. I don't believe it and i sure as hell don't care about chimp credits. For me or for you. I'm immune.
02 Aug 04
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Originally posted by elvendreamgirlYou just don't learn do you?
old chinese proverbs: "He who believs in chimp credits makes a monkey out of himself".
You are doing nothing with this statement except "trying to gain credit in the community of RHP by putting down SVW". Just like a Chimp. Study them.
This is the very definition of a rather "cheap" chimp credit. For rather than "earn" it by intelligent contribution to the tribe... you attempt to 'steal it from svw' and heap some addoration on yourself. And it works with extremely shallow people. You are here to 'gather' a tribe. That is good. Just be aware that by being a 'shallow' dominant you will only gather 'shallow' followers.
Sorry, Princess. I am not even going to try and explain the ideas of anthropological comparison of Chimps And Humans that the discussion requires. I really doubt you are capable of understanding several subtle, yet required understandings of things and traits like "authority" and "subservience". You have always been dominant and I see no reason to disabuse you of that false self image. You will just have to go through life as a princess.
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And I did notice that you had no examples of (human) organizations that don't follow the Chimp model. As was the subject of the "credit" that you tried to steal. How about just dropping the fight and prove me wrong with an example. That is what is required if you have any hope of "putting svw in his place".
02 Aug 04
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Originally posted by StarValleyWywhat a ridiculous thing to say!
You are doing nothing with this statement except "trying to gain credit in the community of RHP by putting down SVW". Just like a Chimp. Study them.
elevendreamgirl is a most highly respected member of this community.
there is no credit to be gained by putting down svw anyway since you do such a fine job on your own.
for example, remember your brilliant and delightful exchange with gavin here:
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?id=9346&page=5
it was a classic!
in any case, please try to be polite.
in friendship,
prad
02 Aug 04
Originally posted by pradtfI already said that your obtuse efforts at recruitment were ok. Have fun. If she can't see through your silly effort, she deserves to become a PETA.
what a ridiculous thing to say!
elevendreamgirl is a most highly respected member of this community.
there is no credit to be gained by putting down svw anyway since you do such a fine job on your own.
for example, remember your brilliant and delightful exchange with gavin here:
http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?id=9346&page=5
it was a classic!
in any case, please try to be polite.
in friendship,
prad
And friend... Your hate is showing. Be careful. You are being seen for what you really are.
You just can't stand it that I don't have to pretend to be a friend and you always do because of your religions TABOO you abide.
02 Aug 04
Originally posted by StarValleyWycome come now! is that any way to greet an old friend?
And friend... Your hate is showing. Be careful. You are being seen for what you really are.
here i return after nearly a 3 week sojourn and find you are into all that hate thing again!
well at least you'll have someone to talk to for a while, but should we do it in your private thread since i have a feeling we should not spam these threads any further?
just say so and i'll dig it up!
in friendship,
prad
02 Aug 04
Originally posted by pradtfWhere ya been? Vacation?
come come now! is that any way to greet an old friend?
here i return after nearly a 3 week sojourn and find you are into all that hate thing again!
well at least you'll have someone to talk to for a while, but should we do it in your private thread since i have a feeling we should not spam these threads any further?
just say so and i'll dig it up!
in friendship,
prad
Let me guess? Whale watching?
02 Aug 04
Originally posted by StarValleyWynope! been off regaining some of my physics and math skills again.
Where ya been? Vacation?
Let me guess? Whale watching?
now you will behave yourself with elvendreamgirl and everyone else, won't you?
it is in all our interests for you to do so.
in friendship,
prad
02 Aug 04
Originally posted by pradtfTrying to steal a chimp credit by pretending to be more powerful of reason and truth than you are?
nope! been off regaining some of my physics and math skills again.
now you will behave yourself with elvendreamgirl and everyone else, won't you?
it is in all our interests for you to do so.
in friendship,
prad
Shame on you. Such blatant recruitment style you have. Overpower me with reason. Then many will join your religion.
You really know by now that if I can make you uncomfortable I will do it every time. Not to insult or hurt you. Just to oppose religion.
And I'm being kind. I am not going to say a word about "regaining" anything. I'll just take your word for it.
02 Aug 04
Originally posted by StarValleyWygood! you just keep being kind! you'll even get used to it!
And I'm being kind. I am not going to say a word about "regaining" anything. I'll just take your word for it.
in friendship,
prad
ps when i return, we can talk on your thread if you are still around
02 Aug 04
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Originally posted by pradtfNah. Actually you and I discussing who is really in charge is perfect to this thread on 'Authoritah'!
good! you just keep being kind! you'll even get used to it!
in friendship,
prad
ps when i return, we can talk on your thread if you are still around
Even if it were not, I love hijacking Marks threads anyway. Tradition! Kind of like Tevia dancing in the loft and scaring the chickens in the yard. "TradiSHUN!!!"