You will respect my authoritah!

Originally posted by StarValleyWy
Outside of the family group, name a few examples OF PEOPLE ORGANIZING to accomplish tasks or have fun or anything that do not consist of "leader(s) and follower(s)".

There are examples.
Organisations need organisation, funnily enough, and if there are a large number of members it is usually better for one or two people to do the monkey work (pun intended).
Take for example a club which I am a member of - a classic car club.
My club is a group of friends who like the same marque of car. They formed a club because it is easier to get meets together, more people to join, club treatment at car shows, cheaper insurance, etc.
At the beginning one person in particular took it upon himself to do most of the organising. So we called him leader, although he didn't call himself that.
After a while he didn't have the time to commit so he stopped doing it. Someone else took over organising when and where we meet, but he certainly isn't a leader - he just does it because nobody else does. In fact, if I were to organise a trip or something tomorrow, people would go along with it (or not if they were busy).
So, there are no leaders, no followers.
I know this example is not unique.
So I think the flaw in your thinking is that you think that people want to be leaders to get the chimp credits and to be higher up the pecking order (mixing metaphors). I'm sure this does happen.
However, in reality, somebody has to take control in an organisation in order that things actually get done.

Originally posted by StarValleyWy
You just don't learn do you?

You are doing nothing with this statement except "trying to gain credit in the community of RHP by putting down SVW". Just like a Chimp. Study them.

This is the very definition of a rather "cheap" chimp credit. For rather than "earn" it by intelligent contribution to the tribe... you attempt to 'steal it from s ...[text shortened]... h an example. That is what is required if you have any hope of "putting svw in his place".

SVW: You just don't learn do you?

Well, I am well educated and I have high IQ, so you are wrong there (what a suprise). But you are right in that I continue to "feed the trolls" by answering your rantings. I guess I just can't help myself.

SVW: You are doing nothing with this statement except "trying to gain credit in the community of RHP by putting down SVW". Just like a Chimp. Study them.

Actually, I have made quite a study of apes, which is perhaps why I find you so fascinating. I never "put you down" as you say, until you, unprovoked, attacked my fiancee and myself. At that point I began to study your posts. I discovered that you attack anyone who disaggrees with you with insults and delusional rantings. You rant about reason, yet your posts are full of elliptical and esoteric ramblings worthy of any paranoid schitzophrenic.

SVW: Sorry, Princess. I am not even going to try and explain the ideas of anthropological comparison of Chimps And Humans that the discussion requires. I really doubt you are capable of understanding several subtle, yet required understandings of things and traits like "authority" and "subservience".

I have studied animal behavior for my entire life, SVW, and I know more about animal behavior than you will ever know. Your chimp credit theory is just your own little way of putting other people down, so that you can feel better about yourself. If you were truly wise and obsevant of people and animals, you would know that neither reacts well to being demeaned or threatened. There is one thing you do have in common with some apes. You do enjoy flinging poo for no particular reason.

Princess? Well, at least you got the meaning of my name right. But I am not a princess. I am a woman who works hard for what she wants, and I do well in my chosen fields. I am willing to get my hands dirty and do work that many women, or even men, would find difficult. I treat people with respect and kindness, unless they prove themselves undeserving of such. I don't whine about not getting to be a princess, or in your case a general.
I enjoy life, I enjoy laughter and wittiness, and I enjoy good debate. So far, I have not seen any of these from you.

Originally posted by elvendreamgirl
You do enjoy flinging poo for no particular reason.

Okay, now I have to wipe the spewed water off of my keyboard. 😀

-Ray.

Originally posted by elvendreamgirl
SVW: You just don't learn do you?

The dragon breathes fire!

"Gratiano speaks an infinite deal of nothing, more than any man in all venice. His reasons are as two grains of wheat hid in two bushells of chaff: you shall seek all day ere you find them, they are not worth the search".

Before Coletti tells me off, this is from the Merchant of Venice by William Shakespear

Originally posted by colleman
The dragon breathes fire!

"Gratiano speaks an infinite deal of nothing, more than any man in all venice. His reasons are as two grains of wheat hid in two bushells of chaff: you shall seek all day ere you find them, they are not worth ...[text shortened]... me off, this is from the Merchant of Venice by William Shakespear

I think of this quote from Shakespeare when I think of SVW:
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

For the glory of the Red Dragon 😀

Originally posted by elvendreamgirl

I think of this quote from Shakespeare when I think of SVW:
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

For the glory of the Red Dragon 😀

I dunno, but the same quote describes Faulkner's ''The Sound and the Fury''.

Originally posted by royalchicken
I dunno, but the same quote describes Faulkner's ''The Sound and the Fury''.

The title of Faulkner's book is taken from the Shakespeare quote.
🙂

Originally posted by elvendreamgirl
The title of Faulkner's book is taken from the Shakespeare quote.
🙂

Well then it's well-placed. I can't handle a novel in which each character has more legitimate names than I have nicknames. Actually, I probably completely misunderstood it.

Originally posted by Varg
There are examples.
Organisations need organisation, funnily enough, and if there are a large number of members it is usually better for one or two people to do the monkey work (pun intended).
Take for example a club which I am a member of - a classic car club.
My club is a group of friends who like the same marque of car. They formed a club because it is ea ...[text shortened]... reality, somebody has to take control in an organisation in order that things actually get done.

What is the point of going to car shows?

Is there a prize involved?

Or should you all just stay home and show your cars to your kids?

<giggle> Boy do you miss the obvious.

Originally posted by elvendreamgirl
SVW: You just don't learn do you?

Well, I am well educated and I have high IQ, so you are wrong there (what a suprise). But you are right in that I continue to "feed the trolls" by answering your rantings. I guess I just can't help myself.

SVW: You are doing nothing with this statement except "trying to gain credit in the community ...[text shortened]... laughter and wittiness, and I enjoy good debate. So far, I have not seen any of these from you.

If I attacked you and your fiance, I apologize. I don't remember doing so. But that I did it is a real possibility.

I'm not going to go find out where or when.

Sorry.

Ok?

Originally posted by colleman
The dragon breathes fire!

"Gratiano speaks an infinite deal of nothing, more than any man in all venice. His reasons are as two grains of wheat hid in two bushells of chaff: you shall seek all day ere you find them, they are not worth the search".

Before Coletti tells me off, this is from the Merchant of Venice by William Shakespear

The kid has promise. Let her shine.

Originally posted by elvendreamgirl

I think of this quote from Shakespeare when I think of SVW:
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

For the glory of the Red Dragon 😀

"But, Should We carry the day!"

Be aware that this in not a war. I don't do that. I am probably the only person you will ever meet who isn't trying to better you. Could care less.

Originally posted by StarValleyWy
"But, Should We ca

rry the day!"Be aware that this in not a war. I don't do that. I am probably the only person you will ever meet who isn't trying to better you. Could care less.

[b]"But, Should We carry the day!"
Is that Henry V? That is one of my favorite of Shakespeare's plays. Is that the St. Crispin's Day speech? It is one of the greatest speeches:


This day is called the feast of Crispian:
He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when the day is named,
And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
He that shall live this day, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say 'To-morrow is Saint Crispian:'
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars.
And say 'These wounds I had on Crispin's day.'
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember with advantages
What feats he did that day: then shall our names.
Familiar in his mouth as household words
Harry the king, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester,
Be in their flowing cups freshly remember'd.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remember'd;
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.

Originally posted by StarValleyWy
If I attacked you and your fiance, I apologize. I don't remember doing so. But that I did it is a real possibility.

I'm not going to go find out where or when.

Sorry.

Ok?

Thank you, SVW.