05 Jul 23
@shavixmir saidDo you have a reason to believe it wasn't?
That's no answer to my question.
The question is: can you hold a free and fair election during a war?
The US held an election during their civil war. Do you reckon that was free and fair?
05 Jul 23
@divegeester saidBecause his section boss in that St Petersburg warehouse has told him to go online and flap his hands whilst pumping out Kremlin propaganda at every opportunity.
Of course.
Why the hand-flapping from you?
@metal-brain saidWell, if there's a civil war going on, with two sides killing each other... and one of the sides is opposed to a centralised government... how do you arrange that to be free and fair?
Do you have a reason to believe it wasn't?
@shavixmir saidWhat nation are you talking about? Ukraine is not a civil war.
Well, if there's a civil war going on, with two sides killing each other... and one of the sides is opposed to a centralised government... how do you arrange that to be free and fair?
Are you just making up something that does not apply in the real world?
What does a dispute about a centralized government have to do with what we were talking about? The US civil war was not about that.
Are you intentionally digressing avoid the debate we were having?
@metal-brain saidthey aren't ad hominem attacks. they are just insults
So you have nothing to debate.
Your ad hominem attacks are a tacit admission of that.
People who run away scared from a debate are that stupid. You cannot prove anything I said wrong and that is what pains you to resort to mindless insults.
Did you feel better for it? Of course not. You have an inferiority complex.
Deal with it like an adult.
You are right though. there is nothing to debate
@metal-brain saidOf course the US civil war was about that. About other things too, but some states wanted out of the union.
What nation are you talking about? Ukraine is not a civil war.
Are you just making up something that does not apply in the real world?
What does a dispute about a centralized government have to do with what we were talking about? The US civil war was not about that.
Are you intentionally digressing avoid the debate we were having?
And I was on about the US civil war, not necessarily Ukraine. Thought it would be easier for you to comprehend.
So, let’s take Ukraine instead. Parts of the country are in Russian hands, many citizens have fled abroad, cities are under constant attack, etc.
How do you hold a fair and free election in those circumstances?
06 Jul 23
@shavixmir saidNo it was not. It was about not letting the south secede. Both the north and the south had centralized governments. So that was not an issue at all. It was about not letting the southern states form their own government.
Of course the US civil war was about that. About other things too, but some states wanted out of the union.
And I was on about the US civil war, not necessarily Ukraine. Thought it would be easier for you to comprehend.
So, let’s take Ukraine instead. Parts of the country are in Russian hands, many citizens have fled abroad, cities are under constant attack, etc.
How do you hold a fair and free election in those circumstances?
You don't know what you are talking about. And this thread is about Ukraine, not the USA.
07 Jul 23
@metal-brain saidIf both sides have “centralized” governments… and one side wants 1 centralized government for both… THINK GOD DAMN IT, THINK!
No it was not. It was about not letting the south secede. Both the north and the south had centralized governments. So that was not an issue at all. It was about not letting the southern states form their own government.
You don't know what you are talking about. And this thread is about Ukraine, not the USA.
Now, answer my question about Ukraine, instead od attempting to sodomize history.
07 Jul 23
@shavixmir saidThat is about seceding you idiot. The only on trying to rewrite history is you.
If both sides have “centralized” governments… and one side wants 1 centralized government for both… THINK GOD DAMN IT, THINK!
Now, answer my question about Ukraine, instead od attempting to sodomize history.
MORON!
07 Jul 23
@vivify saidThe west told Zelensky not to seek peace.
I'm sure there's nothing more Zelensky wants than to rule over a country filled with rubble and corpses where he will forever beg other nations to send weapons and be a target of the Russian military.
https://rumble.com/v1t0320-u.k.-orders-zelensky-to-stop-peace-negotiations-with-russia.html
07 Jul 23
@metal-brain saidMy God man. What do you think that fukking word means???
That is about seceding you idiot. The only on trying to rewrite history is you.
MORON!
@metal-brain saidsometimes the other just needs a good dunging.
Then you are trolling and nothing more. You need a better hobby.
You are like an ape that throws dung at others. You obviously don't play well with others.
i just didn't have the energy to engage in what is another pro-russia retarded stance because this one is particularly stupid. For the reasons the ones that did engage already listed.
07 Jul 23
@shavixmir saidIf the USA can Ukraine can.
Note: Metal Brain is not answering the question how the Ukraine can hold free and fair elections during a war.
Note: Shavismear will not explain why Ukraine cannot hold free and fair elections during a war.