13 Jan 14
Looks like I'm part wrong! 😳
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country
Although not sovereign states, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern
Ireland are referred to as separate countries, even though collectively
they form the country known as the United Kingdom
So the UK is a country as well as a state! Confusing isn't it?
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14 Jan 14
Originally posted by wolfgang59Look at the geopolitical entities that make up the UN. for one example.
Looks like I'm part wrong! 😳
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Country
Although not sovereign states, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern
Ireland are referred to as separate countries, even though collectively
they form the country known as the United Kingdom
So the UK is a country as well as a state! Confusing isn't it?
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15 Jan 14
Originally posted by wolfgang59Wrong. Having different laws doesn't mean different country... look at America, different state 0 different law. The UK is the same, main laws are the same. The fact that they hve different football teams means nothing... Ireland has a united Ireland rugby team, does that make N. Ireland part of the Republic? No.
England and Scotland are most definitely separate countries
(having their own laws) and I'm pretty sure that Wales and N. Ireland
qualify too. (Plus they have football teams!!)
UK is the soverign state.
"Great Britain" is the name of the island.
"British Isles" includes all of Ireland.
"Britain" I believe has no agreed definition.
Scotland is having a referendum to become a separate country.
But don't take my word for it, internet will tell you the same.
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15 Jan 14
Originally posted by SuzianneYou couldn't even name 81% of European countries, let alone find the on a map.
You guys call yourselves Americans?
100% in 1:25.1
Do they have one of these for Europe?
Sure enough:
http://www.purposegames.com/game/countries-europe-quiz
Bah, 81% in 2:44.7
15 Jan 14
Originally posted by Trev33I know different laws does not a country make ... local
Wrong. Having different laws doesn't mean different country... look at America, different state 0 different law. The UK is the same, main laws are the same. The fact that they hve different football teams means nothing... Ireland has a united Ireland rugby team, does that make N. Ireland part of the Republic? No.
Scotland is having a referendum to become a separate country.
But don't take my word for it, internet will tell you the same.
councilks make laws! .. and I was being flippant about
the football teams (FIFA wanted a UK team a while back I think ... ?).
But Scotland, NI, Wales and England are countries!!!!
Scotland is a country that is part of the United Kingdom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland
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15 Jan 14
http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/countries_of_the_world.htm
http://www.listofcountriesoftheworld.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states
http://www.un.org/en/members/
And any other country list you can find on the net does not have Scotland, England, Wales or Northern Ireland on it's list.
United Kingdom is a country the others officially are not. There's no argument. Just because people wrongly casually refer to them as countries does not make them official countries.
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Originally posted by wolfgang59Regarding FIFA, they wanted the to be one football team because there they are all part of one country... personally I think all of them will break away one day anyway so they might as well have their own football teams.
I know different laws does not a country make ... local
councilks make laws! .. and I was being flippant about
the football teams (FIFA wanted a UK team a while back I think ... ?).
But Scotland, NI, Wales and England [b]are countries!!!!
Scotland is a country that is part of the United Kingdom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland[/b]
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15 Jan 14
Originally posted by wolfgang59Is the word "country" in formal use in international law, treaties, the UN, etc?
I know different laws does not a country make ... local
councilks make laws! .. and I was being flippant about
the football teams (FIFA wanted a UK team a while back I think ... ?).
But Scotland, NI, Wales and England [b]are countries!!!!
Scotland is a country that is part of the United Kingdom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland[/b]
Just curious.
"COUNTRY. By country is meant the state of which one is a member.
2. Every man's country is in general the state in which he happens to have been born, though there are some exceptions. See Domicil; Inhabitant. But a man has the natural right to expatriate himself, i. e. to abandon his country, or his right of citizenship acquired by means of naturalization in any country in which he may have taken up his residence. See Allegiance; Citizen; Expatriation. in another sense, country is the same as pais. (q.v.)"
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/country
So it seems to me, a person's country is the entity which he would renounce citizenship thereof bu choice or in order to, for example, become a citizen of an entity that requires such renunciation. How would that work for Scotland, NU, Wales and England?
Would a citizen born and resident in one of them, say, Wales, renounce his citizenship as a citizen of Wales, or as a citizen of the UK?
