Originally posted by SwissGambitDo you, then, place your confidence in a creature lesser than the gods, such as some professor or yourself? If not, isn't somewhat
A lack of belief in any gods.
difficult with confidence in no one and no thing? Wouldn't a guy's boat drift aimlessly if lacking any compass or rudder?
02 Jul 12
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyAre you of the mind that if a person doesn't fear eternal damnation they would have no moral compass? Are you of the mind that a person MUST fear burning in Hell for eternity or rewards of eternal life to live as a good person?
Do you, then, place your confidence in a creature lesser than the gods, such as some professor or yourself? If not, isn't somewhat
difficult with confidence in no one and no thing? Wouldn't a guy's boat drift aimlessly if lacking any compass or rudder?
That would be very sad indeed, and doesn't say much for humans as a species.
02 Jul 12
Originally posted by PhlabibitSome, live their hell here on earth.
Are you of the mind that if a person doesn't fear eternal damnation they would have no moral compass? Are you of the mind that a person MUST fear burning in Hell for eternity or rewards of eternal life to live as a good person?
That would be very sad indeed, and doesn't say much for humans as a species.
02 Jul 12
Originally posted by PhlabibitYour words, not mine.
Are you of the mind that if a person doesn't fear eternal damnation they would have no moral compass? Are you of the mind that a person MUST fear burning in Hell for eternity or rewards of eternal life to live as a good person?
That would be very sad indeed, and doesn't say much for humans as a species.
02 Jul 12
Originally posted by Phlabibit*"The sects that exist in the United States are innumerable, yet all sects preach the same moral law in the name of God." -Alexis de Tocqueville
I see no problem with what I've deduced from your statement on moral compasses, and won't waste any energy asking you to clarify what you've said if my point made doesn't satisfy your expectation of what exactly you actually implied.
Roll it back to where we came in. A visitor from France (I think) visited The United States during the mid-1800's. Conclusions he reached and recorded regarding "morale law" underpinning of our country's uniqueness and prosperity have been read, pondered, taught, debated and praised for a century and a half by thoughtful students of history in this country and abroad. All of this seemed pertinent and timely enough to merit a thread, as we prepare to celebrate the 4th on Wednesday. What you choose to "deduce" and run with is strictly your business and none of ours. Taking it to the Debate Forum may produce positive feedback to your point of view, with which you'll be pleased. Happy 4th of July across the USA!
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