Belligerent Granny Tasered and Sent to Jail

Originally posted by cashthetrash
It depends on the officer if you WILL or will not. He could have changed his mind when she did, but instead he chose to give her a huge shove and escalate the problem. Some pricks have been known to do that instead of acting rational.

Negative, you Will be arrested.....not, you MAY be arrested.

GRANNY.

Originally posted by Sam The Sham
Seems like yelling "OK give me the %$#^ing ticket" wasn't exactly deciding to become reasonable. She was still acting up and bumping up against the cop, once in her car would just revert back to screaming that she wasn't going to sign and start the merry-go-round all over again.

Don't want no trouble?

Don't start no trouble !

"Acting up" does not justify taser use. They are to be used in self-defense or if absolutely necessary to effectuate an arrest. The PERF guidelines specifically say they shouldn't be used against elderly persons.

Is any of this getting through?

EDIT: Before the bump/shove after the profanity she then says "Give me the ticket and I'll sign it".

Originally posted by smw6869
Google is your friend... to wit.

GRANNY.

I'll take that as a "no".

I googled but I can't find anything saying Texas is an exception to the rule that an arrest is discretionary IF the person doesn't sign the traffic citation. Your assertion otherwise (which may be correct) requires some supporting evidence other than your say so.

Nor do I hear the officer say "You're under arrest" rather he repeatedly says "Step back or you're going to be tasered".

Originally posted by no1marauder
I'll take that as a "no".

I googled but I can't find anything saying Texas is an exception to the rule that an arrest is discretionary IF the person doesn't sign the traffic citation. Your assertion otherwise (which may be correct) requires some supporting evidence other than your say so.

Well, i simply asked Google if you're required to sign traffic ticket in Texas....to wit.

GRANNY.

Originally posted by Sam The Sham
Seems like yelling "OK give me the %$#^ing ticket" wasn't exactly deciding to become reasonable. She was still acting up and bumping up against the cop, once in her car would just revert back to screaming that she wasn't going to sign and start the merry-go-round all over again.

Don't want no trouble?

Don't start no trouble !

The United States has the right of Freedom of Speech. She can call it a #$%^&*()citation if she wants too. Bumping up against the cop? Are you kidding he shoved her. Standing your ground is a natural reaction when you are shoved. Cops arrest guys all the time for shoving women.

I bet you a more civil officer could have got her to sign the citation with little or no trouble. Didn't you ever watch Andy Griffith? You sound like Barny Fife.

Originally posted by cashthetrash
I agree. A 72 woman being shoved could have easily fallen and broken her hip. He was NOT wanting to protect and serve but instead to do her physical and bodily harm. While technically he had the legal authority to arrest her. I think he used poor self control and helped to provoke the situation beyond what was necessary. An animal shouldn't be treated t ...[text shortened]... I won't argue about it, I just know I'm right. There was a better and more professional way.

I agree!

It is pretty sad when a man that size can't control a little senior lady, without having to push her and taser her. They have to take the taser guns away from the bullies.

Originally posted by no1marauder
I'll take that as a "no".

I googled but I can't find anything saying Texas is an exception to the rule that an arrest is discretionary IF the person doesn't sign the traffic citation. Your assertion otherwise (which may be correct) requires some supporting evidence other than your say so.

Nor do I hear the officer say "You're under arrest" rather he repeatedly says "Step back or you're going to be tasered".

http://www.speedingticketcentral.com/Texas-speeding-ticket.html



I couldn't actually find it in a law book but this is what these people say. Still, an officer can use common sense and send granny home safe. There is not a no tolerance clause in Texas law.

Originally posted by cashthetrash
The United States has the right of Freedom of Speech. She can call it a #$%^&*()citation if she wants too. Bumping up against the cop? Are you kidding he shoved her. Standing your ground is a natural reaction when you are shoved. Cops arrest guys all the time for shoving women.

I bet you a more civil officer could have got her to sign the citation with little or no trouble. Didn't you ever watch Andy Griffith? You sound like Barny Fife.

An officer of The Law is required to serve and protect his employer, which is The Gov't, Not any individual. The Law says that you can't use profanity towards an officer of the Law and you are required to obey the officers Legal orders. Now, he may have broken granny's arm trying to arrest her, or he could give her a 5 second jolt to bring her to her senses. She could have simple said she had no brakes and was in a hurry to get home before she had an accident to wit. I always sign.

GRANNY.

Originally posted by CCNoob
See what happens when ladies fail to calm down and put their handbags away? http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/news/local/052909_Grandmother_Tasered_at_Traffic_Stop

It was part of her list of 50 things to do before you hit 75.

47. Swear at policeman
48. Get tasered
49. Get on youtube
50. Get a thread on Red Hot Pawn

She can now die happy 😛

Originally posted by no1marauder
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EDIT: Before the bump/shove after the profanity she then says "Give me the ticket and I'll sign it".

No she clearly screams "give me the $%#@&ing ticket"

Originally posted by cashthetrash
http://www.speedingticketcentral.com/Texas-speeding-ticket.html



I couldn't actually find it in a law book but this is what these people say. Still, an officer can use common sense and send granny home safe. There is not a no tolerance clause in Texas law.

Yes, that's the article i read. It said "MUST" sign the citation. Signing is Not an admission of guilt. What's the big deal? At what age does Elderly begin? Does the officer have to guess her weight also? Has the law become a side show now. The officer pushed her to keep her from running out into traffic where she could have been killed...to wit.

GRANNY.

Originally posted by Sam The Sham
No she clearly screams "give me the $%#@&ing ticket"

No s**t. Read the post.

Swearing at an officer does not give him the legal power to use force against you.

Originally posted by smw6869
An officer of The Law is required to serve and protect his employer, which is The Gov't, Not any individual. The Law says that you can't use profanity towards an officer of the Law and you are required to obey the officers Legal orders. Now, he may have broken granny's arm trying to arrest her, or he could give her a 5 second jolt to bring her to her senses. ...[text shortened]... s and was in a hurry to get home before she had an accident to wit. I always sign.

GRANNY.

I don't know how it is in your country but in the United States the government is 'we the People', meaning all of us. Protecting his employer is not the duty of the police against the people, That is not what the police is about. Police arrest Police all the time as they should. Not as much as they should, but they can and will. You are wrong.

This is a silly debate. The officer over reacted.

Originally posted by smw6869
An officer of The Law is required to serve and protect his employer, which is The Gov't, Not any individual. The Law says that you can't use profanity towards an officer of the Law and you are required to obey the officers Legal orders. Now, he may have broken granny's arm trying to arrest her, or he could give her a 5 second jolt to bring her to her senses. ...[text shortened]... s and was in a hurry to get home before she had an accident to wit. I always sign.

GRANNY.

smw689: Now, he may have broken granny's arm trying to arrest her, or he could give her a 5 second jolt to bring her to her senses.

Do you really believe that? If so, you're badly mistaken.

Originally posted by Sam The Sham
No she clearly screams "give me the "

He should have given her the $%#@&ing ticket. It was hers wasn't it?