Originally posted by SirUlrichWell, it worked in the world cup and a few years either side of it, so why would it be different this time?
Let's hope the lions get awarded plenty of penalties I can't see any other way they will win
10 man rugby sucks. I hope the Lions get badly beaten with beautiful running rugby by the all blacks - scoring 10 tries to none...
Originally posted by CrowleyLets just see if I got this right WC final England scored 1 try Australia score 1 try. Australia's try was a cross kick from fly half. V exciting running rugby😉 Englands was a set piece move with the ball being interpassed between forwards and backs. ie running rugby.
Well, it worked in the world cup and a few years either side of it, so why would it be different this time?
10 man rugby sucks. I hope the Lions get badly beaten with beautiful running rugby by the all blacks - scoring 10 tries to none...
Semi finals England France played is the pissing rain handling difficult. Aus NZ played in dry conditions, Aus score 1 interception try. Once more V exciting.
And in the previoius WC Crowley SA only beat England coutesy of 5 drop goals! Once more that exciting running rugby.
A win is a win, running rugby is for girly backs us forwards understnad the fine art of stuffing it up opur junmpers!😀😀
Originally posted by Mat KelleyWell I played inside centre for 10 years or so and was under the impression that the fly half was just there to either kick the ball aimlessly or pass it along the line to someone who could actually run with the ball and score a try!
Wilkinson at centre is not as much of a gamble as people make out fly half inside centre are very similar.
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Originally posted by Mat KelleyNow now Mat, relax a bit there.
Lets just see if I got this right WC final England scored 1 try Australia score 1 try. Australia's try was a cross kick from fly half. V exciting running rugby😉 Englands was a set piece move with the ball being interpassed between forwards and backs. ie running rugby.
Semi finals England France played is the pissing rain handling difficult. Aus NZ pl ...[text shortened]... ugby is for girly backs us forwards understnad the fine art of stuffing it up opur junmpers!😀😀
Not once have I said SA or any other team played great running rugby in the WC. The only reason SA won the '95 WC was because of 2 great drop goals.
Strange how many WC games boil down to drop goals, eh?
I would just like to see running rugby, not just the backs, the whole team - interplaying and constructing great tries.
England have been playing the 10 man game for a long time now and it's worked for them - I just don't want to see it.
I'm not talking about forwards driving it up - that's fine by me and many teams seems to have forgotten how to do a rolling maul properly. But just driving it up and hoping for a penalty so that Jonny can kick a penalty is not rugby.
BTW, I weigh 100+ Kg and played lock / flanker and I scored many tries driving it up with the forwards.
OK I might be a little excitable a big game to morrow to focus on!
England's back didn't perform last year but in the couple of years leading up to the WC they were out scoring most opponents on tries.
The Lions so far have scored more tries than the oppostion, no reason to expect them to try something else.
If however the weather is going to be as awful as predicted, it would be churlish to try an d play a running game, NZ have accepted this.
I don't mind watching an open running game just so long as my club doesn't try and copy it, I too am 100Kg+ running all over the pitch isn't my idea of fun!🙄
Originally posted by Mat KelleyAmen.
I don't mind watching an open running game just so long as my club doesn't try and copy it, I too am 100Kg+ running all over the pitch isn't my idea of fun!🙄
I can't play rugby anymore - my knees are buggered. Probably because they're too weak for my formidable frame.
Last year I played a few club games again. My knees didn't have any problem because I just couldn't run... I thought I was still fit, because I play enough other sports. Trust me, there's a big difference between playing squash and playing 80 minutes of rugby!
I just believe rugby is turning in too much of a kicking game.
I would support any rule changes that meant more points for tries and less for penalties.
We want to see tries!
When I returned home near the beginning of the season the local paper delicatley put it that I had returned "to add weight to the pack". Don't know what they meant.
I think the penalty 3 points goal 7 points is fair enough. It might be worth having conversions taken infront of the posts wherever the try has been scored, making it easier to make a try into a goal. Or even get rid of conversions altogether. try worth 7 drop goal 2 or penalty 3. Got ensure that the nasty flankers don't cheat too much😀
I reckon Ryan Jones deserved more than just a bench place for the 1st test. I also believe Charvis should have been given a lions place, as I believe he would be in the test team had he been called up.
Im not just annoyed about the Welsh players left out... some very good scottish players have been left out; White, Paterson, and maybe another one or two.
Originally posted by jarrydI think the Lions could have had two or three extras on the field and they wouldn't have been up to to it tonight. The Lions either dropped the ball at crucial times or kicked it away.
first test to new zealand. Too easy. Lions have lost key players to injury. Line out a disaster. 21-3
The ABS looked very rusty at times, but did they clean out the lineouts... Ali Williams had a blinder so did Jerry Collins.
Hope you are right Jarryd.. bring on the Welshmen boyo we'll put them in a nice rarebit for breakfast bach.
The Lions can take some heart though... they tackled well.
The French ref gets a tick too..
Wales unbeatable last season, Grand Slam winners, practically dismissed as " not yet fully mature", England struggling against the wooden spoon, SIR clive still reeling from the euphoria of the flukey World Cup win (thank God for Jonny!), surrounding himself with thirteen of the boys who got him a knighthood, no wonder the Lions got humiliated!
Originally posted by mac slayerNot humiliated... they just haven't got it together.. Lost 8 out 21 line outs, huge missed tackle count, passed put down (slippery ball in the rain and hail).
Wales unbeatable last season, Grand Slam winners, practically dismissed as " not yet fully mature", England struggling against the wooden spoon, SIR clive still reeling from the euphoria of the flukey World Cup win (thank God for Jonny!), surrounding himself with thirteen of the boys who got him a knighthood, no wonder the Lions got humiliated!
I'd like to see Henson get a start thought he was unlucky not to get in test starting line up.
Oh ...sooo glad the ref gave 10mins for gobbiness straight up - settled everyone down for the rest of the game... no real niggle
Originally posted by Crowleycould be a sep thread for that one.. Loved that game books have been written about it. SA won because Merhtens missed three drop goal and I think two conversions...
Now now Mat, relax a bit there.
Not once have I said SA or any other team played great running rugby in the WC. The only reason SA won the '95 WC was because of 2 great drop goals.
Strange how many WC games boil down to drop goals, eh?
I would just like to see running rugby, not just the backs, the whole team - interplaying and constructing great tri ...[text shortened]... weigh 100+ Kg and played lock / flanker and I scored many tries driving it up with the forwards.
The mysterious hotel kitchen girl that wheeled out the all blacks tea urn on the morning of the game disappeared after team doctors pointed the finger at the tea being poisoned. She later confessed she did it for a hundred rand.
Merhtens and seven other all blacks vomitted more than three times during the game.
All the big teams now take their own chefs and kitchen staff on tour and they no one....
Anyway..ancient history..