05 May 05
Originally posted by sasquatch672So....where's this bar????
Love the Boss. I'm a disciple and a buddy of mine has something like 200 bootlegs. His early stuff - first three albums - is brilliant, to this day. Saw him seven times on The Rising tour, three in the Meadowlands, two in Philly, one more time in the Meadowlands, and then the final show of the tour in Shea last October 4.
The Shea show was grea ...[text shortened]... you don't care, but thanks for letting me take that five-minute vacation anyway. BRUCE ROCKS!
05 May 05
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Originally posted by shavixmirNo, but there are smart arse "jokes" about sex, dating, being jewish and/or black (actually maybe not "and" ), etc.
Which formulaic US sitcom compares to Seinfeld?
There's no hugging. There's no nice people. Nobody ever wins. There's no moral to the story. People don't learn, they just keep on making mistakes.
tsk.
Shame on you Varg. Go and ...[text shortened]... Unfunny, and fly off to Unfunnia to watch Mork and Mindy re-runs.
Northern Exposure was pretty good. Police Squad I liked, one called Bakersfield PD, and possibly a few others.
05 May 05
Originally posted by VargYou are not calling Seinfeld anti-jewish are you?
No, but there are smart arse "jokes" about sex, dating, being jewish and/or black (actually maybe not "and" ), etc.
Northern Exposure was pretty good. Police Squad I liked, one called Bakersfield PD, and possibly a few others.
And it has to be handed to the show, okay...maybe they were anti-jewish, anti-catholic, anti-nazi, anti-protestant, anti-capitalist, anti-handicapped, anti-politically correct, anti-gay, anti-anti-gay....
But that was what made it so good. The four main characters were completely selfish. What was good for them was good. What wasn't, was bad.
I put it to you that they fit in my description of me:
"Yes, I am a racist. But I don't discriminate in my racism. I hate all of you."
05 May 05
Originally posted by shavixmirI wasn't saying it was anti-jewish.
You are not calling Seinfeld anti-jewish are you?
And it has to be handed to the show, okay...maybe they were anti-jewish, anti-catholic, anti-nazi, anti-protestant, anti-capitalist, anti-handicapped, anti-politically correct, anti-gay, anti-anti-gay....
But that was what made it so good. The four main characters were completely selfish. What was goo ...[text shortened]... n of me:
"Yes, I am a racist. But I don't discriminate in my racism. I hate all of you."
Just that the jokes were based on lame stereotypes (Jackie Mason does this too, and that crap woman who always tells jokes about clitorises (or is it clitori?).
It reminds me of the stand up comedian in the Simpson's: "You ever noticed a white guy does this, while a black guy does this...". Lame stereotypes.
05 May 05
Originally posted by VargBut what are you saying Varg?
I wasn't saying it was anti-jewish.
Just that the jokes were based on lame stereotypes (Jackie Mason does this too, and that crap woman who always tells jokes about clitorises (or is it clitori?).
It reminds me of the stand up comedian in the Simpson's: "You ever noticed a white guy does this, while a black guy does this...". Lame stereotypes.
Doesn't ALL humour rely on various degrees of stereotypisms?
Okay, they don't all. You have the absurdist type of humour, but that's only funny to a certain extent.
05 May 05
Originally posted by shavixmirI don't mind humour based upon stereotypes. But not lame ones.
But what are you saying Varg?
Doesn't ALL humour rely on various degrees of stereotypisms?
Okay, they don't all. You have the absurdist type of humour, but that's only funny to a certain extent.
Black people dance. Hilarious.
White people are straight. My sides are aching.
Jews become doctors or lawyers. Please stop.
Right I'm going to stop as I'm sounding too serious. Believe it or not I like comedy.
I'm reminded of this:
Nobody likes a good laugh more than I do... except, perhaps my wife... and some of her friends. Oh, yes, and Captain Johnson. Come to think of it, most people like a good laugh more than I do, but that's beside the point!
05 May 05
Originally posted by VargSo you agree that Seinfeld doesn't use lame stereotypes then??
I don't mind humour based upon stereotypes. But not lame ones.
Black people dance. Hilarious.
White people are straight. My sides are aching.
Jews become doctors or lawyers. Please stop.
Right I'm going to stop as I'm sounding too serious. Believe it or not I like comedy.
I'm reminded of this:
Nobody likes a good laugh more than I do... except, perh ...[text shortened]... Come to think of it, most people like a good laugh more than I do, but that's beside the point!
You've lost me completely dude. Or I've drunk too much wine.
05 May 05
Originally posted by shavixmirPeople who have never seen him live leave just astounded by the experience. I consider him the poet laureate of the American soul. His ballads, that rarely get the attention of his "anthems" but are some of the most beautiful music ever written. Some of it is like Flannery O'Connor set to music.
The thing with Springsteen is, you can't judge his music until you've seen him play live. And I certainly wouldn't recommend an acoustic concert. You have to see him and the E-street Band.
Most people who I know don't like his music, but they'll go to every one of his concerts. Then when you listen to the songs on record, you find yourself actuall ...[text shortened]... if you want to hear him at his best.
Lyrically "Darkness on the edge of town" was his best.
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Originally posted by sasquatch672Nice Post Sas.. rec from my wife and she'd snog ya if you were near.. a beacon post in the wasteland of the seinfeld morons.
Love the Boss. I'm a disciple and a buddy of mine has something like 200 bootlegs. His early stuff - first three albums - is brilliant, to this day. Saw him seven times on The Rising tour, three in the Meadowlands, two in Philly, o ...[text shortened]... or letting me take that five-minute vacation anyway. BRUCE ROCKS!
The joy of NZ (one of) is having a mix of international tv and radio we don't have to watch american attempted humour. Your sitcoms are all complete rubbish. Though I loved to perve at threes company BUT that was a copy of a brit com.
Archie Bunker was good wasn't as funny as the Brit Alf Garnett (sadly both dated now)
The downer here in NZ is getting up in the morning to three pages of you lot LOL
05 May 05
PS My wife has just about every bootleg concert. belongs to fan groups and is going to the city for a group meet this weekend. They are showing wide screen Bruce concerts...
There is a difference with his concerts...people almost always have fond happy memories and experiences... there's virtually never any problem and the guy's work ethic is incredible. Not many performers do a 3 hour show.
I went to Santana the week before.. brilliant show (2 hrs) with an opening band.. Carlos is playing better than ever.
06 May 05
Originally posted by sasquatch672If you will do a google search on Carl Trueman you will find a really nice piece on the theology of Bruce Springsteen. I so wish many of the frequent contributors to the spiritual forums would find examples of faith in the artistic world like Springsteen has.
I agree with you, Kirksey, very well said. He's a chronicler. Each album is a time capsule, and he's taken the very best and worst of American life and put it to words and music. Incredible indeed.
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Originally posted by kirksey957Thats a rec each
If you will do a google search on Carl Trueman you will find a really nice piece on the theology of Bruce Springsteen. I so wish many of the frequent contributors to the spiritual forums would find examples of faith in the artistic world like Springsteen has.
Cheers ...but ssshhhh my wife will be in here if keep that up 😉
Devils & Dust gets into your mind and strengthens your resolve. I think it's going to be an enduring favourite. Can't wait to hear what Okes think about the song "Black Cowboys"