Originally posted by bobbob1056th1. How will personC resign two games at precisely the same time? by pressing 'move' on two different PCs at the same time? even if he/she does this, the information about one resignation will arrive at the server first and be processed first. so as far as the server is concerned, the resignations would not be simultaneous. even if the PCs are connected to different phone lines, the resignation requests will be queued at the server, making one or the other prior.
Now I would like to present a question: If personA and personB are both playing a rated game with personC, and personC resigns to both people at precisely the same time, what happens? Is it as if his rating was the same for each resignation (since, assuming his opponents rantings were compatible with his, personCs rating should go down after the first resignation)?
2. Even if it possible for two resignations to be simultaneous, no sense can then be made of the term 'the first resignation' in your question.
Originally posted by Freddie2004It's just a game Freddie, and not even an important game... none of these games mean anything to the rest of the world. <sigh>
for successfully managing to boost his rating to an all time high of 2294 by timing out InHisName, a player who has made it known he is on vacation looking after his wife in hospital...how honourable...well done meman!
Originally posted by Freddie2004Meman's a tool for timing In His Name out. I've seen Meman have his vacation flag up, so I guess he generally has no objection to vacation flags in principle. He just prefers his to be honored but feels no compunction about honoring others. Everybody's right: it only a game, IHN has more important things to worry about, etc. etc. but it's still a pretty lowlife trick to pull.
for successfully managing to boost his rating to an all time high of 2294 by timing out InHisName, a player who has made it known he is on vacation looking after his wife in hospital...how honourable...well done meman!
Originally posted by LittleBearThanks, I've always wanted to be an "isiot", but to PM you, I'd have to respect you, and that can never happen.
So are you. Or you have a very strange sense of humour, if any at all.
If you want to turn this into something personal, isiot, PM me.
Y te voy a enseñar cuántos pares son dos botas, pedazo de infeliz.
I was one of the first proponents of getting a vacation message for the vacation setting - nowadays I wish I never did.
What the hell - if someone is in Hawaii or dying of cancer - it doesn't matter. Rules are rules. If you don't move you get timed out.
I was sick a while back, nothing serious, just had a bad case of the flu. I wrote that in my vacation message, but I still got timed out. Where were the threads complaining about that?
No-one has the right to be so anally self-righteous about anyone timing out an opponent, no matter what the message says.
meman plays heaps of games against everyone ... playing mostly as black in the sieges ... good on you!
meman winning by timeout? and you claim this is bad ... of meman's last 20 games 2 were won by timeout ... big deal ... this is not a sign of meman being a timeout trickster ... this is a sign of meman being a chess player.
meman timed out a 1600 rated player who had already been timed out by everyone else ... this gave meman 1 point - 1 point! ... meman got 2294 points by playing chess ... anyone who criticises meman for this is a fool.
meman has played 1000 games .. and humans die mostly before 100, so it can be expected that the grim reaper will occasionally enter into the time constraints ... so be it.
wish the best to In His Name ... and to everyone else ... we are all mortal.
Originally posted by AmauroteMy sincere apologies, Amaroute. 😳
Thanks, I've always wanted to be an "isiot", but to PM you, I'd have to respect you, and that can never happen.
My bad command of english make me to misunderstand your comment about my avatar. And this infuriated me.
After re reading your post I think I have catch the real meaning of it.
So peace... and my humble apologies.
Hope you can understand.
Michael
Edit: Spelling.
Originally posted by CrowleyI have to agree. If a person loses the game on time - so what??? 😲
I was one of the first proponents of getting a vacation message for the vacation setting - nowadays I wish I never did.
What the hell - if someone is in Hawaii or dying of cancer - it doesn't matter. Rules are rules. If you don't move you get timed out.
I was sick a while back, nothing serious, just had a bad case of the flu. I wrote that in my vacati ...[text shortened]... e so anally self-righteous about anyone timing out an opponent, no matter what the message says.
I recently witnessed an unfortunate event in a Motor City chess tournament where one of the top players had a seizure while playing. 😳
He knocked all the chess pieces off the board as he started convulsing and fell to the floor. The staff called an ambulance and within minutes a team of paramedics arrived at the scene and took Mr X away!
Meanwhile... the tournament director told his opponent that he "could not claim a win in the game" and stopped the clock to reflect the moment of the seizure! He did this because the seizure victim's friend told the TD that "due to exterminating circumstances his friend should be allowed to continue play the next day."
Since this was the SECOND round of the tournament, it meant that the THIRD round had to be paired with the game as a DRAW! Not only that! The opponent of the player who had a seizure was told that he must show up the next morning TWO HOURS before round 4 in order to finish the game so the next round pairings could be made!
GEEZE people... It should be obvious to everybody that there is always going to be a situation that requires the game be terminated. We have rules for those situations... why try to undo the official rules and make those who use them the escape?
Originally posted by arrakisThe point is there is no requirement that Meman HAD to time out In His Name, so he made a conscious decision to ignore his vacation flag even though it gives a PRETTY GOOD REASON why he isn't making moves. And Meman himself has put up vacation flags before, so I presume he expected them to be honored. To take the t/o under these circumstances is some cold-hearted s**t.
I have to agree. If a person loses the game on time - so what??? 😲
I recently witnessed an unfortunate event in a Motor City chess tournament where one of the top players had a seizure while playing. 😳
He knocked all the chess piece ...[text shortened]... o the official rules and make those who use them the escape?
This story may or may not be relevant but I'll share it away. I was once the manager of a team in a Modified Fast Pitch Men's softball league. The league played Sunday mornings and the season consisted of 12 games. A player was supposed to play at least 6 of the 12 games to be allowed to play in the playoffs.
The best pitcher in the league had been on another team for about 10 years and was in his early 40's. In the second week of the season, he had a heart attackand was not going to be able to pitch for almost the entire rest of the season. By the rules he would not have been eligible to play in the playoffs even though he had pitched in them for years and dearly wanted to again.
Rather than being memanish and rejoicing at my good fortune, I had met the guy and didn't think it was right that he would miss the playoffs. I went around to all the other managers and eventually talked enough of them (2/3) to have them petition the league president for an exemption. The guy was allowed to pitch and pitched pretty well, his team made into the semi-finals. So did my team, but we also lost.
I had nothing to gain by helping the guy get to pitch in the playoffs and if the seedings had turned out differently it might have been to my team's detriment (in a league where the average team scored 8 runs a game, we had averaged 3 against him). But there's these little concepts called sportmanship and compassion that the memans and Arrakises of the world should try, at least once. You might "win" a little less, but you'll feel a little better when you check out the face in the mirror every morning.
Let me get this straight ...............
Are you telling me that Meman now has easy rating points up for grabs?? Good Lad!
I'm going in for a look Big Jim !!!!!!
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
(For those of you who experienced the "Big Jim" dolls in their youth. Of course, it was a friend of mine who had one. If you think that I'D have a Big Jim Doll, I've only got three words to say to you. "AS IF!"😉
(Action Man was more my sorta dude. Though he didn't come with genitalia, so I don't suppose any of the other dolls got much action out of him at all. But I feel this is a digression from the subject at hand, so I'll stop now.)
Originally posted by no1marauderNo-one should expect any player to honor their vacation flag, or for that matter, even read their opponent's vacation message.
so I presume he expected them to be honored. To take the t/o under these circumstances is some cold-hearted s**t.
If you see a skull, you should be able to click on it without this public outcry.
No matter what the message says. End of discussion.
I think a petition should be started to stop these threads from starting.
These are akin to cheating accusations, because this is what they inevitably boil down to. Player X shouldn't have timed out player Y because blah blah blah.
I actually got a message from an opponent I timed out, asking me if I was proud of my victory. WTF!? If you don't move within the time constraints, you get timed out!
Originally posted by CrowleyFine, if someone doesn't want to honor a vacation flag, NEVER put one up yourself. If you don't want to read someone else's vacation message, NEVER POST ONE YOURSELF. But when you do put up a vacation flag and a message, I'd say you're honor bound to respect other people's. The exception would be if you say in your profile that you time out regardless, then you should not expect others not to time you out. Problem solved.
No-one should expect any player to honor their vacation flag, or for that matter, even read their opponent's vacation message.
If you see a skull, you should be able to click on it without this public outcry.
[b]No matter what the message says. End of discussion.
I think a petition should be started to stop these threads from starting.
T ...[text shortened]... as proud of my victory. WTF!? If you don't move within the time constraints, you get timed out![/b]
The vacation message is there for information - that's all. I don't understand why you're bringing honor into this.
I've put up my vacation flag probably 3 or 4 times in my 3 odd years here. I've been timed out every time. Sometimes I don't move at all over the weekends. I get timed out.
Timeouts are part of the game and part of the site.
You don't see me whining about it. I TO anyone, no matter if they are on vacation or not.
The site was created for people to play chess, if they can't, they get timed out. Honor has nothing to do with it. If you honor the vacation flag, good for you, but stop whining about other people who don't.
no1 - I know you're not whining about it, I just get pissed off eevry time I see a thread like this.
meman didn't break any rules. People who get all pissy about it irritates me, because what does it matter? Really?
Originally posted by CrowleyThe guy ain't playing because his wife may have a fatal illness; surely you can see that it's pretty crappy to time him out right away. Who's whining; I'm just saying it ain't right to take advantage of a situation like that. I already said above it's only a game, yadayadayada; but since that's true what's the big deal about claiming the win? There's two skulls sitting there in the MEGACHALLENGE on no1Marauder's My Games page from In His Name and they'll be sitting there until ALL the other games in the MEGACHALLENGE are done if need be. And if IHN still can't return, I'll ask Russ to call them draws. I don't need to win a couple freaking games of correspondence chess or anything else bad enough to take advantage of some guy's wife being gravely ill. If other people do, that's on them.
The vacation message is there for information - that's all. I don't understand why you're bringing honor into this.
I've put up my vacation flag probably 3 or 4 times in my 3 odd years here. I've been timed out every time. Sometimes I don't move at all over the weekends. I get timed out.
Timeouts are part of the game and part of the site.
You do ...[text shortened]... any rules. People who get all pissy about it irritates me, because what does it matter? Really?