02 Feb 04
Originally posted by belgianfreakTypical Euro-trash statement...didn't expect it from a Belgian, but nothing surprises me anymore. I try to explain something to you and your twin Ian Pickering in an attempt to teach you about a certain culture I get immature feed back instead... 😴
and them hillbillys sure know about loving their families <yuk yuk yuk!!>😉
02 Feb 04
Originally posted by ianpickeringOK, mister "teacher" how are you with History? What group of Colonial Rebels kicked your Redcoat arses back across the pond? yuk, yuk, yuk,...why them thar hillbillies....😲
This made me laugh out loud. Thanks for that.
A Hillbilly family's only son had saved up money to go to college and after about 3 years he came back home. They were sitting around the dinner table when the dad said, ''Well son, you done gone to college so you must be perty smart. Why don't you speak some math fer' us?''
''Ok, Pa'', the ...[text shortened]... Dad said, ''Why son, they ain't teached ya nothin'! Pie are round, cornbread are square.''
02 Feb 04
Originally posted by ivanhoeHave always been socialist in outlook, although (like most people) i'm not quite so idealistic as I grow older. As the great Martin Luther King (my idol) said people should be judged by "the content of their character" not by their background or the amount of money they have. There should be equality of opportunity, not privelige for those who can afford it. I detest ignorant racism or predudice. Only the intellectually challenged and insecure fear diversity. Aren't new experiences and cultures the stuff of life?
I see, you're not liberal or progressive. Were do you stand politically ?
I can't stand conservatives. My experience is that they tend to look down on people that are not like them and are intolerent of 'weaker' members in society. Margaret Thatcher was the worst - very hateful and patronizing. (Her remark after winning the general election summed her up - "We must do something about those inner cities" (as if she was talking about a lower life form!). For some reason she seems to be idolised in the US. Can't for the life of me think why.
In foreign policy we should help others, not for what we can get out of it , but because they need help. We, as the west, could do much to alleviate
suffering (eg Aids) if we chose to do it. But we choose our own self interest first.
What do you mean by 'Liberal' ? I believe that this is an insulting term in
US politics. As for 'progressive' I certainly am! You seem to have got the wrong impression of me!! As I've said in other posts - some of my comments have been 'banter'. An example was the post about widening of turnstyles in US stadiums. That's just funny! You have to admit that.
By the way - why has there never been a succesful socialist party in the US. Is it because of the paranoia about communism? (A completely different thing). Of course The Soviet Union wasn't a communist country -
just the rule of the strong over the weak. True communism is a nice ideal, but will only work if the vast majority of people are prepared to work for the common good and not be motivated by the desire to acquire
more and more material wealth.
02 Feb 04
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Originally posted by ianpickeringIanpickering:
Have always been socialist in outlook, although (like most people) i'm not quite so idealistic as I grow older. As the great Martin Luther King (my idol) said people should be judged by "the content of their character" not by their ...[text shortened]... ted by the desire to acquire
more and more material wealth.
"I can't stand conservatives. My experience is that they tend to look down on people that are not like them and are intolerent of 'weaker' members in society."
Do you think this is a Conservative prerogative ?
IanP: "What do you mean by 'Liberal' ? I believe that this is an insulting term in US politics."
I don't think so. But let the Americans on the site elaborate on that. They're the experts.
By the way your idol Martin Luther King was not a socialist at all, as you will probably know. He was a devoted and sincere Christian. He wasn't even a Christian-Socialist. Socialists tend to be anti-religion. How come lefties condemn religion all the time and at the same time have idols whose policies have firm religious fundaments and who get all their inspiration and strength from their belief in God?
By the way I will leave the question about an American Socialist Part to the Americans on the site.
03 Feb 04
IanP: "As I've said in other posts - some of my comments have been 'banter'. An example was the post about widening of turnstyles in US stadiums. That's just funny! You have to admit that."
Well, in that case I can recommend you to join a clan. You can participate in a game that is often plaid on the <Clans> forum. It's called Clan Goad. It will be perfect for you and your fellow goaders will love to see some fresh blood pooring in ....... goad, goad, ... 😀
03 Feb 04
Originally posted by ivanhoeWe do have a socialist movement in the U.S. The party is called Democrats, aka "Liberal Democrats", "Tax and spend Democrats", "Cintonism and Hillaryism", ...just look at the ninth circuit court of San Francisco, CA...liberal judges who say it's OK for the homeless to piss and $hit in the city streets...socialism to rival Europe 🙄
By the way I will leave the question about an American Socialist Part to the Americans on the site.
03 Feb 04
Originally posted by ivanhoeI think that your statement that socialists tend to be anti-religion is incorrect. Socialism was very strong in both Wales and Scotland at a time when attendance at church was very high. There is even an argument that Jesus was 'socialit' - not one I neccesarily suscribe to. Many early socialist ideas were rooted in Christian belief.
Ianpickering:
"I can't stand conservatives. My experience is that they tend to look down on people that are not like them and are intolerent of 'weaker' members in society."
Do you think this is a Conservative prerogative ?
IanP: "What do you mean by 'Liberal' ? I believe that this is an insulting term in US politics."
I don't think so. ...[text shortened]... ill leave the question about an American Socialist Part to the Americans on the site.
03 Feb 04
Originally posted by ivanhoeOne of my favorite writers is Will Campbell who is a heretic Baptist preacher. Early in his life he was very active in the civil rights movement, taking part in marches, protests, etc. Later, he became convinced that the Gospel was for everyone and he reached out to klansmen, country music stars and the like. The verse in Corinthians "Be ye reconciled to one another even as Christ reconciled the world to himself..." was a guiding principle. He always took the least expected path of understanding something. For example, the passage where Jesus says if you have done it unto the "least of these..." he took that to mean not necessarily the poor and hungry, but people he detested. He once said that he could not tell any difference between the robes of klansmen and those in the graduation line at Vanderbilt and Duke Universities. Stated that those two universities had held the south back more than the Klan ever had. Of course when he was invited to speak at these places you can imagine how this went over.
Ianpickering:
"I can't stand conservatives. My experience is that they tend to look down on people that are not like them and are intolerent of 'weaker' members in society."
Do you think this is a Conservative prerogative ?
IanP: "What do you mean by 'Liberal' ? I believe that this is an insulting term in US politics."
I don't think so. ...[text shortened]... ill leave the question about an American Socialist Part to the Americans on the site.
Any way I thought this had some relevance to your discussion/debate.
03 Feb 04
Originally posted by kirksey957Kirksey: "For example, the passage where Jesus says if you have done it unto the "least of these..." he took that to mean not necessarily the poor and hungry, but people he detested."
One of my favorite writers is Will Campbell who is a heretic Baptist preacher. Early in his life he was very active in the civil rights movement, taking part in marches, protests, etc. Later, he became convinced that the Gospel was for everyone and he reached out to klansmen, country music stars and the like. The verse in Corinthians "Be ye reconciled ...[text shortened]... gine how this went over.
Any way I thought this had some relevance to your discussion/debate.
I'm glad that you provide interpretations of the Christian faith that go deeper than the usual too shallow interpretations of both believers and non-believers.
03 Feb 04
Originally posted by chancremechanic
We do have a socialist movement in the U.S. The party is called Democrats, aka "Liberal Democrats", "Tax and spend Democrats", "Cintonism and Hillaryism", ...just look at the ninth circuit court of San Francisco, CA...liberal judges who say it's OK for the homeless to piss and $hit in the city streets...socialism to rival Europe 🙄
I've always thought this was liberalism. The social-democratic parties in Europe are now adopting the same policies. Indifference wearing a mask of goodness and caring ......😞
04 Feb 04
Originally posted by chancremechanicthat's a pretty big claim...name one royal who likes country music (I mean, by your strict definition of what constitutes country, ie bluegrass)...oh heck, by any definition at all...
People from Royals to trailer trash like country music.
BTW has anyone seen 'Deliverance'? that hillbilly kid with the banjo gave me the creeps...
04 Feb 04
Originally posted by dfm65Ok, you got me...I don't know any specific Royals, but I think Queen Elizabeth fancies country music as well as the Queen of the Netherlands...I could be wrong, but I heard this somewhere...basically, I meant that country music is loved world wide, even in Australia (ever hear od Keith Urban?...Aussie country singer who made it big in the US)....yeah, the little bugger on Deliverance is scary...not too many folks like that around...but there are some...deep in Appalachia...good folks too until you cross them...
that's a pretty big claim...name one royal who likes country music (I mean, by your strict definition of what constitutes country, ie bluegrass)...oh heck, by any definition at all...
BTW has anyone seen 'Deliverance'? that hillbilly kid with the banjo gave me the creeps...