07 Jul 16
Originally posted by FreakyKBHReally? You mean there was no politics with your so-called god dealing with the so-called Lucifer? I thought they had a big fight and Lu was kicked out and had to start its own little universe. Sounds like politics to me. But that just shows how man made the whole stupid edifice of religion is. The biggest scam in human history.
Your idiocy is only exceeded by your ignorance.
There are no politics in His administration.
07 Jul 16
Originally posted by SuzianneWell, don't you think "fascist" and "bigots" is a bit vitriolic and extreme?
Except that the left is the side of right.
It was then, it is now, and it still will be when the fascist right finally runs the show in the last days.
"Religious Freedom"?
There's religious freedom now. What they mean to call it is "Freedom to be bigots".
Yes, religious freedom. The right to have a world view and live a life based on the faith one chooses without fear of a government or any group of people trying to squelch that right.
That's what the Religious Freedom Coalition is about. Sorry, but for a Christain you have some extreme left leaning views about some things. If you have information that confirms your accusations about specific individuals I'm ok with that, but if and when you level a charge against a Christian organization made up of members of the church doing to the best of their ability the proclamation of the gospel of Jesus Christ you are essentially charging Jesus with bigotry and fascism.
I think what you're doing is projecting a mindset you learned at the knees of your liberal ideology, and assume things you shouldn't. Not all people are as shallow as you think. Especially when it comes to mature Christians.
So, just what do you think the "side of right" is? What makes it right? According to what standard do you determine what is right?
07 Jul 16
Originally posted by josephw"Sorry, but for a Christain you have some extreme left leaning views about some things."
Well, don't you think "fascist" and "bigots" is a bit vitriolic and extreme?
Yes, religious freedom. The right to have a world view and live a life based on the faith one chooses without fear of a government or any group of people trying to squelch that right.
That's what the Religious Freedom Coalition is about. Sorry, but for a Christain you have so ...[text shortened]... de of right" is? What makes it right? According to what standard do you determine what is right?
Is it necessary to be a far-right conservative to qualify as a Christian?
Originally posted by josephwNo, I'm not confused, Joe. It's you. Are you stupid, or are you just trying to be cute?
Do you?
You seem confused.
You implied that Christians shouldn't have "extreme left leaning views," an article of faith evidently passed along by your
mentors in the extreme right leaning Religious Freedom Coalition. As a left leaning Christian, I resent your insinuation.
You drank the Kool-Aid, Joe.
08 Jul 16
Originally posted by HandyAndyWell, if I'm stupid what does that make you?
No, I'm not confused, Joe. It's you. Are you stupid, or are you just trying to be cute?
You implied that Christians shouldn't have "extreme left leaning views," an article of faith evidently passed along by your
mentors in the extreme right leaning Religious Freedom Coalition. As a left leaning Christian, I resent your insinuation.
You drank the Kool-Aid, Joe.
Why don't you list some of the extreme leftist views and let's compare them with what God's Word has to say about them. Then maybe you might glean from the comparisons some of the light of the Truth.
If not, at least you can get some more reasons to call me stupid. Then you can remain true to form. It'll make you feel better about yourself too.
Originally posted by josephwAs a Christian, I do often think "WWJD?" and that is what defines what is "right" to me.
So, just what do you think the "side of right" is? What makes it right? According to what standard do you determine what is right?
Corporate globalists trying to shove all the money up to the top 1/10th of 1%, at the direct expense of the other 99.9%, are not very Christian, and yet this seems to be the chief aim of many Republican priorities. And the Republicans are always "the party of the evangelists". This has got to be some kind of bad joke. Conservative policies are all about greed, thinking of yourself first. This is why the minorities need to be "kept in their place". Conservatives teach that we need to fear "the other", which is code for "anyone not like us". This is why "all Muslims are terrorists", "all Mexicans are 'illegal'" and "all blacks want is to rape your white daughters". This is also why "gays are immoral pedophiles". And why "women don't deserve to be paid the same as a man", and should "stay home and raise the kids". And why "the poor don't want to work and just want a handout" and "don't give that homeless guy money, he'll just get drunk with it or buy drugs". And why women forced into prostitution at a young age are just "wanton sluts". And if they do have children out of wedlock because their men left them when they found out they were pregnant, but they try to raise them on their own, they get called "welfare queens".
All Republican and conservative politicians (I include the Libertarians here), who claim they follow Jesus, and yet act like the Pharisee in Luke 7:39 and are pierced through with many sorrows for becoming drunk with the love of money, are not representative of those I would align myself with.
The Democrats and other liberals (I include the socialists here), who understand that their bosses are The People and not The Corporation, who would raise taxes on the wealthy if it meant the poor would eat, who are working for universal healthcare, raising the minimum wage and lowering the crushing debt involved in getting an education, THESE are the people I would align myself with.
Did not Jesus say, "Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me." THIS is what the "side of right" means to me.
08 Jul 16
2 edits
Originally posted by SuzianneThanks for getting back. I thought for a moment you had gotten disgusted with me for some offence. None intended.
As a Christian, I do often think "WWJD?" and that is what defines what is "right" to me.
Corporate globalists trying to shove all the money up to the top 1/10th of 1%, at the direct expense of the other 99.9%, are not very Christian, and yet this seems to be the chief aim of many Republican priorities. And the Republicans are always "the party of the ev ...[text shortened]... t of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me." THIS is what the "side of right" means to me.
WDJD? What did Jesus do? I think Jesus would do today just what He did while here. Except when He returns He'll do even more.
I don't fault you for your convictions. We have a two party political system that is by design meant to achieve a middle ground we can all be happy with. But it is run by men, and the struggle for equality and justice will be hampered by greed and power on an individual basis. The system is only as good as the individuals running it, and corruption exists on both sides of the aisle. Until Jesus returns and rules auto-theocratically we will have to endure the same old story. Nations rise and fall. In the end God will sort it all out.
As Christians we are free to do as our faith allows. By that I mean what occupation we choose or were we live and the like. But beware your faith doesn't lead you down the wrong path. Grace isn't a license to sin. Grace is about our liberty in Christ, not a free pass to ungodliness.
Personally I'm sick and tired of fat cat republicans and live as you please liberals spinning their deceit. I've seen enough to know there's not a whit of difference between the two. Politics is of no interest to me anymore. Nothing changes except to get worse and worse.
As far as I'm concerned it all boils down to individual conduct. The world is already judged. Let the chips fall where they may.
Edit: By the way, I think I'm probably more left leaning than you might think. I tend to agree with your summations in principle, but it's a bit more ideological than practical in my opinion. There will always be injustice as long as man rules. We need checks and balances up and down within the social order. There will always be the rich and poor. As Christians we "fight the good fight" as best we know how. God only is our judge.