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10 Aug 04
11 Aug 04
Originally posted by Paul DiracUh no.
Question to shavixmir: Do you have go-getters in your family? The sort they call "Type A"? If you are the one in your family (parents, siblings, uncles, aunts, cousins) who is the least materialistic, and who maybe has accrued the least wealth, do they try to make you feel inferior to themselves? Maybe in a subtle way?
I don't really see where your line of questioning is going, but none of my family are rich and no one is poor either.
My mum was a nurse and my dad was a bookbinder (who worked himself to death...he was working when he dropped dead in front of his machine two months ago). ofcourse his boss is way richer and healthier than my father ever was.
The people in my life are go-getters in a sense of living rather than aquiring.
I am, however, probably the least materialistic person amongst my family and friends (although my mum is probably a very close second), but I do have things I like:
I like eating in restaurants (which I do multiple times a week), I like driving my car (a renault megane 1.6 16v sport coupe) and I like my warhammer models (I have 3 armies now).
Chairs, couches, beds, houses, clothes and whatnot do not interest me in the least. I generally turn up at boardroom meetings dressed in a T-shirt, jeans (cheap jeans, 3 sizes too large) and a messed up hair-do.
I'm very professional at what I do and I work in the non-profit sector of society. Nearly every time I've worked in the profit sector I've been fired. Never for not doing my job properly but always for verbally attacking the boss, his ideas or work-methods in general.
Generally speaking I'm arrogant as hell and equally generally, I'm quite justified in my arrogance. So, if people were putting me down I probably wouldn't even notice they were doing so.
12 Aug 04
Originally posted by shavixmirI was just curious, is all.
I don't really see where your line of questioning is going, but none of my family are rich and no one is poor either.
Both my brother and my brother-in-law are more career-climbing oriented than I. At family get-togethers, I am the one with the cheapest vehicle, and I am the one whose house is not in a gated community, and so on. They don't rub my nose in it or anything, but I sometimes wonder if my parents see me as the one who isn't "going places" in the world.
12 Aug 04
Originally posted by Paul DiracMoney need not be the curerency of each and every endeavour.
Both my brother and my brother-in-law are more career-climbing oriented than I. At family get-togethers, I am the one with the cheapest vehicle, and I am the one whose house is not in a gated community, and so on. They don't rub my nose in it or anything, but I sometimes wonder if my parents see me as the one who isn't "going places" in the world.
As for going places, not all roads are lined with material possessions.
-Ray.
12 Aug 04
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Thanks guys. Part of knows you're right, another part holds me here, and I don't know which is right. I actually enjoy my job at times, it's certainly the best I've ever had in terms of interest & pay, but I'm in an isolated possition without proper support.
Cribs - what's "Office Space"? A TV series or a website??
Shav - of course you're right. I probably do need my head examinig and I mean that literally. Why do I need to try to find justification for my existance in my work? Probably because there's not much else outside it.
Prad - I was medicine bound, I even got a place a Uni. Then I discovered that due to a technicalirty I wouldn't get any government support for the studies meaning that I'll not only have to use my own cash to feed & cloth myself I'll have to pay thousands per year in tuition fees. I can't afford it, yet. I'm getting transfered back to the UK in 4 months. The whole department is changing and I'll be in charge of it so maybe things will improve. Then again, maybe not. So I'm saving cash as much as I can and I'm reapplying for Medicine this year. If by April 2005 I have a place at Uni & the job is still not worth it I'm out of here.
12 Aug 04
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Originally posted by belgianfreakI think you have to be assertive about this one. You have been verbally attacked and you regard this as unfair. Be analytical about the situation - look closely if you are at fault and get a peer who you know and trust to go through the case. Make sure it is someone prepared to tell you how they see it - even if they find fault with you.
I'm fuming. I do a damn good job and the people who are close enough to me can see that I do. A problem cropped up 2 months ago on profitable & high profile contract (rare!) that so far has cost us $200,000. I have worked solidly, whi ...[text shortened]... I resign myself to this for life or should I be looking elsewhere?
I an not saying this to disbelieve you - I am saying you should escalate this and you want to be sure of your ground before doing so. Ask for a wrtten review of your performance on this matter, and a meeting to discuss this with your boss and the one who gave you the going over. Ask to have Human Resources present and explain you have put your self under stress and the comments have demotivated you.
Ten to one you will scare the crap out of your managers who look like they have organised a convenient scapegoat for their problem.
12 Aug 04
Originally posted by belgianfreakOffice Space is a movie that came out 3 or 4 years ago. It's by Mike Judge, who (I think) was the creator of Beavis and Butthead...it's all about the inanity and facelessness of working for an empty-souled corporation, and it's damned hilarious... I worked in such a company for a while and so many of the characters and situations resonated greatly with me...I suspect with your current situation it might actually be therapy!
Thanks guys. Part of knows you're right, another part holds me here, and I don't know which is right. I actually enjoy my job at times, it's certainly the best I've ever had in terms of interest & pay, but I'm in an isolated possition without proper support.
Cribs - what's "Office Space"? A TV series or a website??
Go and rent it today, if you can find it...
Joe