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@torunn said
Can you tell me what there might be to recover? Do FB have access to anything other than what I, or people I know, have posted there?
Edit: I have not added my telephone number.
In principle, everything you ever posted, or was posted to you, is recoverable.

If you left your name at FB, and your telephone number at some other web site and that other web site gets hacked, then it is in principle possible to 'connect the dots' and associate your name with your phone number, or anything else about you which is on the web, provided there is some other common factor. Most people have no idea what data they have strewn all over the web. People do so much online these days: shopping, travel, plane tickets, automobile insurance, booking hotels and holidays and rental cars, ... Of course, no human goes looking for the common factors; there are huge computers which do the data mining and pick out the bits that match up. Hacking a FB account is only one piece of a complex puzzle, but put that together with a few other hacked databases from other web sites, and you have all the necessary building blocks of a major invasion of privacy. THAT is why it matters that FB lets itself be data-mined by, for example, Cambridge Analytica, and no one knows just what Cambridge Analytica did with all that data. They said they deleted it, but who else copied it before it was deleted? They won't say.

EDIT: I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I do not subscribe the theory that all this was designed by the deep state to control us. FB was designed to make Mark Z a lot of money and he, at least in the beginning, was naive enough to think he was selling an innocent service.

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When you go to FB settings, there is an option to look at 'your FB information'.

I did that and then downloaded a file containing all of that information. It takes a while for them to compile it so be patient. It is a large zipped file and has a great deal of information in there.

I looked over most of it and I didn't see anything there that would be of much use to anyone. But there is certainly a large quantity of text conversation, pictures, images, etc. saved. It does also include the names of all of my FB friends, including those that I have deleted, as well as all declined friend requests, etc.

It's like someone sat down and kept very complete notes and copied every single thing you ever said to anyone, or any image or picture you ever posted, or things that you followed or liked, or commented on. I think it's all there in that giant file they sent me. Kind of scarry that they have every bit of it saved. The FBI or INTERPOL would be proud!

Maybe the main lesson, after looking at what FB has collected and filed over the years, is that you should not say or do anything, or post any kind of information online if you have any reason that you do not want anyone else to see it at a later date. This could probably apply to any online sites that you might visit.

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@moonbus said
In principle, everything you ever posted, or was posted to you, is recoverable.

If you left your name at FB, and your telephone number at some other web site and that other web site gets hacked, then it is in principle possible to 'connect the dots' and associate your name with your phone number, or anything else about you which is on the web, provided there is some other ...[text shortened]... ney and he, at least in the beginning, was naive enough to think he was selling an innocent service.
Thank you for this information, I understand. I buy trips among other things - plane ticket and hotel - on internet and that requires personal details.

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when i made my decision to abandon creepbook,
the main reason i was leaving was their intrusion...
i spent a few hours deleting every single post and photo i had ever posted...
extreme, right???
well, look at what they own of you,
extreme is the only way you will ever be free...
i deleted all my info, i set up a burner email account and updated my account with it...
i updated all my personal info they would not let me delete (birthday) with fictional garbage that i let my dog pick out...
turns out he is great with his paws...
i kept going back for several days looking at what was still displayed (amazing how they kept finding my olde junk to repost) and continuing to delete everything...
finally, when i was happy (and i'm still not happy) i deleted my account the way i was instructed by several other websites, not nuttybook's recommendations...

i'll bet dollars to donuts they STILL have my shoe size...

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@rookie54 said
when i made my decision to abandon creepbook,
the main reason i was leaving was their intrusion...
i spent a few hours deleting every single post and photo i had ever posted...
extreme, right???
well, look at what they own of you,
extreme is the only way you will ever be free...
i deleted all my info, i set up a burner email account and updated my account ...[text shortened]... i], not nuttybook's recommendations...

i'll bet dollars to donuts they STILL have my shoe size...
Size 9 (in a trainer).


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@ghost-of-a-duke said
Size 9 (in a trainer).


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@rookie54
I’m just glad that I never used my actual name for my FB account. The reason being was that I did not want any contacts with people associated with my job and place of work.

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@drewnogal said
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I’m just glad that I never used my actual name for my FB account. The reason being was that I did not want any contacts with people associated with my job and place of work.
You, like many people, probably use the same email address to log on to several online sites, including FB. That is the most common common factor which ties several databases together. Your name will be in one of them, no doubt.

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@moonbus said
You, like many people, probably use the same email address to log on to several online sites, including FB. That is the most common common factor which ties several databases together. Your name will be in one of them, no doubt.
I used my own name because I wanted people I know to find me... 🙂 Didn't expect anyone else to be interested.

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@moonbus
It’s impossible to function without an email address these days.
There’s no hope 😳

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@drewnogal said
@moonbus
It’s impossible to function without an email address these days.
There’s no hope 😳
you're allowed one google of email addresses...

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@drewnogal said
@moonbus
It’s impossible to function without an email address these days.
There’s no hope 😳
One should have several email addresses: one for family and friends (I mean real friends one has met face-to-face, not virtual pen pals), one for business, one for registering at online services (such as FB, RHP, WhatsApp, and other chat platforms), one for registering products (MS Office, Norton anti-virus, Adobe products, etc.) -- at the very least, and they should never communicate with each other.

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@mwmiller said
When you go to FB settings, there is an option to look at 'your FB information'.

I did that and then downloaded a file containing all of that information. It takes a while for them to compile it so be patient. It is a large zipped file and has a great deal of information in there.

I looked over most of it and I didn't see anything there that would be of much use ...[text shortened]... else to see it at a later date. This could probably apply to any online sites that you might visit.
Bear in mind that there is now very efficient face recognition software about. It is routinely employed in airports and other secure installations, as well as by police forces around the world. That is how the identities of the people involved in the recent assassination of a Saudi journalist in Turkey were so quickly identified. Put that together with FB (or other social media) postings, and it is quite easy to track someone down. You might not see anything incriminating among all your posts and shared photos, but someone else might. Example: if an Iranian foreign student in the UK outs himself as gay, he puts his lovers and former lovers back in Iran at risk. The Iranian security forces trawl social media in search of stuff like that, and they execute homosexuals in Iran.

Wake up people, this is really happening and it's bloody dangerous.

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@moonbus said
Bear in mind that there is now very efficient face recognition software about. It is routinely employed in airports and other secure installations, as well as by police forces around the world. That is how the identities of the people involved in the recent assassination of a Saudi journalist in Turkey were so quickly identified. Put that together with FB (or other social med ...[text shortened]... ecute homosexuals in Iran.

Wake up people, this is really happening and it's bloody dangerous.
My world is small and I'm insignificant - do I have to worry about all these things? I ignore friend's requests as they are all from people I have never met or heard of. It all seems so complicated to me.

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@torunn said
My world is small and I'm insignificant - do I have to worry about all these things? I ignore friend's requests as they are all from people I have never met or heard of. It all seems so complicated to me.
I assure you, no hacker is interested in who you really are as a person. But take a look at the following article:

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-46136513

The gist is that social media platforms are being exploited as a feeding ground for a pseudo-service sector economy based on disinformation. It's not who you are that matters; it's attracting "click-bait" which generates revenue. Getting someone (anyone) to click on links generates revenue, the more clicks, the more money. Likes lead to likes lead to likes, and the number of clicks increases not linearly, but orders of magnitude. That's why FB and co. are targeted by hackers: if they can hack an account with thousands of 'friends' and 'friends of friends' and 'friends of friends of friends', they get money (Bitcoins) for it. People are being used without even knowing it. What is the risk to you personally? Probably marginal; you don't have enough money in your bank account to be worth a hacker's trouble to get at it. But maybe you just don't like being used as bait in some one else's get-rich-quick-for-no-work-scheme. I sure don't.

Of course, there are alternatives to FB:

https://fossbytes.com/best-facebook-alternatives/

I don't do any of them. My real friends know how to reach me w/o that.

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