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24 Jul 16
Originally posted by josephwhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
The physical senses, knowledge of the truth and experience.
And maybe just a little common sense and a bit of reasoning. I'm not going to spend all day proving an assertion with a statistical analysis of the state of man's condition.
I think the only reason for asserting the idea that "we've been getting smarter" is due to the increase and availabilit ...[text shortened]... why you think we're "getting smarter"? Or that there is even such a thing as the "Flynn Effect"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naive_realism_(psychology)
24 Jul 16
Originally posted by Great King RatThat is the Robert Heinlein effect.....
I suppose it matters how IQ is measured.
How about making a healthy meal without relying on pre-packaged food, for instance?
Or how about fixing something yourself when it's broken?
I wonder if we've been getting dumber in those kinds of aspects.
25 Jul 16
Originally posted by KnightStalker47Look for Naive realism (psychology on one of Wikipedia's sister projects:
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That's what came up when I followed the third link. Somebody really smarter must have made a mistake! 😉
25 Jul 16
Originally posted by KnightStalker47The second link lead to more success. I found a list of "cognitive biases". Really brilliant. Psychologists must think everyone's insane. That's good to know since we're all getting so much smarter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naive_realism_(psychology)
25 Jul 16
Originally posted by KnightStalker47The first link was even more interesting. In fact, I read it into a recorder to play back when I go to bed. No point in wasting time falling asleep.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naive_realism_(psychology)
28 Jul 16
FMF to josephw: So you've got no objective or empirical evidence to back your "The reality is society is getting dumber" thing?No. The forums were the same 10 years ago as they are now. So it doesn't support josephw's claim.
Originally posted by Very Rusty
Just read the forums!
28 Jul 16
Originally posted by FMFSir,
No. The forums were the same 10 years ago as they are now. So it doesn't support josephw's claim.
Try to get out of your tunnel vision and look more closely! 😉 A lot of the smart people we had back then are gone!!! What replaced them not so great, lets put it that way!
Kind Regards,
Sincerely,
-VR
28 Jul 16
Originally posted by FMFHow about the guy in a self driving car that ran into a truck? He was watching a Harry Potter movie and not paying attention to the road.
So you've got no objective or empirical evidence to back your "The reality is society is getting dumber" thing?
He was intelligent enough to procure and operate the latest in modern technology, but apparently lacked the common sense to understand that new technology doesn't necessarily mean safe technology. He died in the crash so he doesn't have the benefit of learning from his mistake, and for all we know he might have had a higher than average IQ.
28 Jul 16
Originally posted by Very RustyI think the nostalgia about these forums overrates what was actually going on and is propagated by those still here who are some combination of mean spirited, lumbering, malcontented and artless, and probably always have been. I think the forums were much of a muchness 10 years ago.
Try to get out of your tunnel vision and look more closely! 😉 A lot of the smart people we had back then are gone!!! What replaced them not so great, lets put it that way!
28 Jul 16
Originally posted by lemon limeAn anecdote is not empirical evidence.
How about the guy in a self driving car that ran into a truck? He was watching a Harry Potter movie and not paying attention to the road.
He was intelligent enough to procure and operate the latest in modern technology, but apparently lacked the common sense to understand that new technology doesn't necessarily mean safe technology. He died in the cras ...[text shortened]... it of learning from his mistake, and for all we know he might have had a higher than average IQ.