Originally posted by Moldy CrowBah, if he ws graded 170 and i'd lost i wouldn't have a problem. It's the fact he LIED about his grade that jerks me off! I want to hit 120/130 this season so i can start playing for the better sides at my club. The older players look down their nose at me when i'm just as good if not better! This loss cancels out about 5 wins against equal opposition. That means i have no room for any more loses this season! I pity the poor souls who are yet to face me, their in for a ruff time!
Was he just really happy to win or was that an engine in his pants ?
They obviously cheated by putting such a strong player on a low board, but I doubt if you will lose rating points because of it.
Here are some relevant rules from Scotland, I couldn't find any offical BCF rules, but presumably they would be similar.
Rating calculations don't necessarily assume any ungraded players you play against are low ranking patzers, certainly not if they have such a high previous grade.
Returning Players
Adult players are given their old grade if it appears in the last five grading lists (the current list is one of the last five). If not in the last five lists then use the last SCA (CS) published grade minus 10 points for every year inactive, prior to the last five eg if you were last published six grading books ago take off 10 points etc. (In practice returning players seem to go back to their previous best strength quite quickly - perhaps they left less enthusiastic and have refound that enthusiasm). Juniors restart as new players (Tournament organisers should always be told if you have previously held a grade).
Games against Ungraded Players
Most games against ungraded players count for your rating. Before the final grading run all the games of an ungraded player are collated. A temporary grading is calculated for the ungraded player based only on games against published graded players and the new grades of previously ungraded players who have achieved a new grade in the season. To be eligible for a temp rating the ungraded player must have played a minimum 5 games against players with such grades and scored in the range greater than 0 and less than 100%. This temporary rating is retrospectively used as the ungraded players grade in the games records of all the opponents of the ungraded player. Temp ratings are listed in italics on the grading website. The temp rating will be very close in value to the initial new grade of the unrated player. The reason why it may be different is because the unrated player may gain additional games from temporary ratings of ungraded opponents. (April 2005)
Originally posted by SiskinThank you, i feel better now! Rec for you 🙂
They obviously cheated by putting such a strong player on a low board, but I doubt if you will lose rating points because of it.
Here are some relevant rules from Scotland, I couldn't find any offical BCF rules, but presumably they would be similar.
Rating calculations don't necessarily assume any ungraded players you play against are low ranking patz ...[text shortened]... ated player may gain additional games from temporary ratings of ungraded opponents. (April 2005)
Originally posted by marinakatombYou should feel GOOD, guy! You allowed the weaklings on your team the chance to stomp their opponents! 😏
Played a game for my club today. Played on board 5 (out of 6). The guy i played was ungraded, but used to play some years ago. After he's whoped my ass, he explains how he used to be graded 178 bcf!! Their f***ing board one was only 158!!!! I have a grade of 105, which will now drop to about 90, BECAUSE THESE F***ERS DECIDE TO STACK THEIR LOWER BOARDS ...[text shortened]... player in my whole club isn't graded that high!! AHHHHHH, i wanna smash something, grrrrr!!!!!
YOU ARE A HERO!!!! 😵
Hero's seldom take the credit for their great works, ya-know.
Originally posted by marinakatombTry to focus more on playing to learn and improve, and worry less about your rating.
Played a game for my club today. Played on board 5 (out of 6). The guy i played was ungraded, but used to play some years ago. After he's whoped my ass, he explains how he used to be graded 178 bcf!! Their f***ing board one was only 158!!!! I have a grade of 105, which will now drop to about 90, BECAUSE THESE F***ERS DECIDE TO STACK THEIR LOWER BOARDS ...[text shortened]... player in my whole club isn't graded that high!! AHHHHHH, i wanna smash something, grrrrr!!!!!
Just looking at your rating graph in rhp. earlier in the year you resigned a whole lot of games and then tore apart 12-1400 rated players on your way back knowing you were over 1600.. wonder how many realised your real rating when they took you on? so I think how they felt getting creamed by a 1600+ on on a low rating..
Originally posted by Tirau DanWhat goes around, comes around, eh?
Just looking at your rating graph in rhp. earlier in the year you resigned a whole lot of games and then tore apart 12-1400 rated players on your way back knowing you were over 1600.. wonder how many realised your real rating when they took you on? so I think how they felt getting creamed by a 1600+ on on a low rating..
Originally posted by karnachzI don't get many opportunities to play for the higher teams. This was a rare opportunity and i was beaten before i sat down. While my grade isn't the most important thing in the world, the team captains take it as a one stop signal of a players strength. Mine is not accurate, and after last night night it will be even more inaccurate. Had he been honest with me, i simply wouldn't have played him as the result would have been the same and my grade would also be the same. It was basically like me being ironman31's first rated opponent.
Try to focus more on playing to learn and improve, and worry less about your rating.
Originally posted by Tirau DanHe told me before the game he was about 140bcf. That's 1950 elo. I knew i would probably loose but i played him anyway. You are right, what goes around comes around, i just hope i get to face him again in a couple of years cos i WILL beat him!
Just looking at your rating graph in rhp. earlier in the year you resigned a whole lot of games and then tore apart 12-1400 rated players on your way back knowing you were over 1600.. wonder how many realised your real rating when they took you on? so I think how they felt getting creamed by a 1600+ on on a low rating..
Originally posted by marinakatombbig boohooo
Played a game for my club today. Played on board 5 (out of 6). The guy i played was ungraded, but used to play some years ago. After he's whoped my ass, he explains how he used to be graded 178 bcf!! Their f***ing board one was only 158!!!! I have a grade of 105, which will now drop to about 90, BECAUSE THESE F***ERS DECIDE TO STACK THEIR LOWER BOARDS ...[text shortened]... player in my whole club isn't graded that high!! AHHHHHH, i wanna smash something, grrrrr!!!!!
he was going to rip some points off someone as he went back up the ladder ...
you will get your points back ...
use your anger to get them back and all is where it should be ... you may even thank him in the end for firing you up to a new level.
Originally posted by flexmoreI was venting last night. That was only my second competitive loss! I'm still brewding over the first and that was over a year ago! I will have my revenge!!!! lol 😀
big boohooo
he was going to rip some points off someone as he went back up the ladder ...
you will get your points back ...
use your anger to get them back and all is where it should be ... you may even thank him in the end for firing you up to a new level.
Originally posted by marinakatombwar is war........and its the learning process not the winning process that counts................my son
Played a game for my club today. Played on board 5 (out of 6). The guy i played was ungraded, but used to play some years ago. After he's whoped my ass, he explains how he used to be graded 178 bcf!! Their f***ing board one was only 158!!!! I have a grade of 105, which will now drop to about 90, BECAUSE THESE F***ERS DECIDE TO STACK THEIR LOWER BOARDS ...[text shortened]... player in my whole club isn't graded that high!! AHHHHHH, i wanna smash something, grrrrr!!!!!