23 Jan 10
Originally posted by trev33I don't know about 'easy' becasue I can't imiagine anything else, you know what I mean. Our oldest hardly beleived at all she's way too inquisitive, our 8 year old found out last year and our 6 year old has an idea is all make beleive. I think our youngest beleives but he mentioned the present from santa and said I'd bought it for him, which I had but I didn't think he knew that, so I said 'you mean santa' but there was no changing his mind and no point in lying when he's right.
ouch, that can't be easy.
how many of them believe in santa?
i so wanted to tell my 6 year old niece the truth over xmas when you sent ME to the 'naughty step'.
Snoring, excellent! Time for bed 😀
I put you on the naughty step?? I think you have me confused with someone else??
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23 Jan 10
Originally posted by yo its meoh, i meant 'she' instead of 'you'... i'm really not functioning well at all today, seriously.
I don't know about 'easy' becasue I can't imiagine anything else, you know what I mean. Our oldest hardly beleived at all she's way too inquisitive, our 8 year old found out last year and our 6 year old has an idea is all make beleive. I think our youngest beleives but he mentioned the present from santa and said I'd bought it for him, which I had but I di ...[text shortened]... 😀
I put you on the naughty step?? I think you have me confused with someone else??
that's interesting about santa, so you would agree that 7 is a good age to tell them if they didn't already know?
23 Jan 10
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Originally posted by trev33Who knows? The 10 year old next door still beleives. Her mum goes to great lenghts to keep up the pretence. I wasn't ever told the Santa story, so it wasn't part of my childhood and not something I was going to 'do' with my kids but it was part of their dad's childhood and somehting he enjoyed beleiving in. But just like sex education, it's my opnion that when they're ready to ask they're ready to know the answer, without elaborating the answer, that is. Becasue there's no use in lying to your own children.
oh, i meant 'she' instead of 'you'... i'm really not functioning well at all today, seriously.
that's interesting about santa, so you would agree that 7 is a good age to tell them if they didn't already know?
6/7 is when charictor starts to form, so I beleive it's an important age to encourage individuality ...edit; actually I'm not sure if that's true. I think I read it in some phycology book a few years back but thiking of my kids they had their own personality from birth I'm sure becasue they were all so different.
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23 Jan 10
Originally posted by yo its meThey asleep yet?
Who knows? The 10 year old next door still beleives. Her mum goes to great lenghts to keep up the pretence. I wasn't ever told the Santa story, so it wasn't part of my childhood and not something I was going to 'do' with my kids but it was part of their dad's childhood and somehting he enjoyed beleiving in. But just like sex education, it's my opnion that ...[text shortened]... arictor starts to form, so I beleive it's an important age to encourage individuality.
23 Jan 10
Originally posted by yo its meThat's a fun game, we have the same thing here but we call it, "Heads Up 7-up" although it has nothing to do with 7-up.
They, well three of them, are playing a game called heads up thumbs down where one lies down and the others decide one to pinch them and they have to guess who it was. The other two (the one who was asleep, wasn't after all) are upstairs getting too loud.
At least they've all brushed their teeth. It's going to be a long night 🙁
I suggest you turn all the lights out on them and tell them that monsters patrol the hallway at night so they better stay in their beds...or else!
23 Jan 10
Originally posted by jimslyp69My daughter gets a "No", then a raised voice "No!" and then a tap on the hand.
I wouldn't say it was idylic. We had the odd tantrum and barny and that. We just knew that when our parents raised their voices, they meant it.
Well it's all about control and its all pyschological really isn't it. Some kids just know that they can do what they like. Especially over the last 15-20 years.
It's all gone bonkers!!!!!
It's not hard, but she starts crying immediately, which means she knows she was naughty.
I just don't believe in this time-out chair and trying to 'reason' with them BS. At least not for kids under 3.
23 Jan 10
Originally posted by uzlessActually this is pretty much what I'd do, although without the threatening overtones. I'd pause the game, and sit them in front of me with everyone on the sofa and explain that they get fifteen more minutes of game and ask them if they thought the alternative (having their parents come and get them) is worth it. First person asleep gets to choose what we have for breakfast.
Try using, uh, you know, parenting skills.
Tell the kids they can play for 15 more minutes and then its bedtime. If they don't like it, turn the game off tell them you are the parent, they are the kid, and now it's time to do what they are told. If they still don't listen, the sleepover kids get a ride home immediately and your kids are grounded.
When did parenting become so hard?
23 Jan 10
Originally posted by CrowleyPersonally this is a definite no for me. Our kids are about the same age and for me the naughty step not only works, it promotes reasoning and therefore self-awareness and responsibility for his actions, and removes the need for physical punishment (which I believe is wrong on any level, tap, slap or anything else).
My daughter gets a "No", then a raised voice "No!" and then a tap on the hand.
It's not hard, but she starts crying immediately, which means she knows she was naughty.
I just don't believe in this time-out chair and trying to 'reason' with them BS. At least not for kids under 3.
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Originally posted by StarrmanAs with everything in life, this all depends on the degree you apply it.
Personally this is a definite no for me. Our kids are about the same age and for me the naughty step not only works, it promotes reasoning and therefore self-awareness and responsibility for his actions, and removes the need for physical punishment (which I believe is wrong on any level, tap, slap or anything else).
I believe that the actual physical act of punishment is the only way to get the message across sometimes. I try to let her explore as much as she wants.
But when she is definitely not allowed something, like running around a street without holding my hand etc., then a slap on the hand or bum is all that works.
You can disagree all you want, but this is how I was raised and my kids will be raised the same way.
We were allowed much freedom by my parents, but when we disobeyed, then it was time for the belt. We knew this, understood it and my dad always explained to us why he did it.
The 'naughty' phase is an exploration of the world, so it shouldn't be stunted, but it's also a test of boundaries.
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Originally posted by CrowleyShouldn't you want to raise you child in the way you think is best for them, not because it was how you were raised? Unless of course you think your parents did a perfect job. I don't know, maybe they did, but in my experience all parents make mistakes and recreating those mistakes for the sake of tradition seems wrong.
You can disagree all you want, but this is how I was raised and my kids will be raised the same way.
The belt is never a better option than non-corporal punishment and explaining why things are wrong. They might lean never to do it, but how will they learn why they should never do it.
I'm not busting your chops, man.