03 Mar 10
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Originally posted by kiki46I've one from a teacher from a few years back, who in turn had forged this one from older dictionaries and cobbled it together with an eye toward undergirding principles:
" doing the right thing when no one is looking"
your thoughts
"... is a state or quality of being complete; an unimpaired state of honesty and purity; a soundness of moral principle; the character of uncorrupted virtue, especially in relation to truth and fair-dealing.
Integrity is uprightness of character; probity; candor; uncompromising adherence to a code of moral or professional values; the avoidance of deception, expediency, artificiality, or shallowness of any kind."
In short, "integrity is loyalty to the truth."
Also in short, integrity is an exceedingly rare quality--- not only herein, but in the world in general.
03 Mar 10
Originally posted by FreakyKBHThat definition suggests truth or correctness, a code of morals. What if one's morals differ from another's? What of absolutism and relativism?
I've one from a teacher from a few years back, who in turn had forged this one from older dictionaries and cobbled it together with an eye toward undergirding principles:
"... is a state or quality of being complete; an unimpaired state of honesty and purity; a soundness of moral principle; the character of uncorrupted virtue, especially in relation to ...[text shortened]... , integrity is an exceedingly rare quality--- not only herein, but in the world in general.
Integrity doesn't rely on truth, it relies on consistency.
03 Mar 10
Originally posted by StarrmanHmmm. So--- if I read you aright--- a pedophile could be said to have integrity... just so long as he is consistent in his actions?
That definition suggests truth or correctness, a code of morals. What if one's morals differ from another's? What of absolutism and relativism?
Integrity doesn't rely on truth, it relies on consistency.
03 Mar 10
Originally posted by StarrmanIf integrity can simply be reduced to consistency--- without attachment to anything else--- it is essentially superfluous. Consistency is consistency, and doesn't need integrity to maintain itself, nor does integrity tell us anything more about it.
How?
Truth stands alone, whether or not someone adheres to it, but when it is adhered to, we call that integrity. Consistency stands alone, whether or not someone adheres to it, but when it is adhered to, we call that faithfulness... not integrity.
03 Mar 10
Originally posted by FreakyKBHWhy are you making it out to be something special? Integrity is the consistency of any given process. When you can define truth I'll consider whether or not it has any real bearing.
If integrity can simply be reduced to consistency--- without attachment to anything else--- it is essentially superfluous. Consistency is consistency, and doesn't need integrity to maintain itself, nor does integrity tell us anything more about it.
Truth stands alone, whether or not someone adheres to it, but when it is adhered to, we call that integri ...[text shortened]... t someone adheres to it, but when it is adhered to, we call that faithfulness... not integrity.