03 Mar 10
Originally posted by FreakyKBHHow am I playing games and what the hell does 'agreement with reality' mean? Can I disagree with reality? When I am acting untruthfully am I being in some way unreal? To use a phrase bbarr coined, that's just word soup.
Well, if you want to play games, I guess I can humor you for awhile.
How about this one:
"agreement with reality."
03 Mar 10
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Originally posted by StarrmanThe problem with the definition of integrity is the line "especially moral".
Not really, I'm not suggesting that integrity has a moral value, merely that it relies on consistency.
You have to realize there is more than one way to define integrity.
This is like my argument about "is chess a sport". Everyone thinks of sports as athletics, and ignores 'sports' as a hobby or way to pass time.
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03 Mar 10
Originally posted by StarrmanI find it comical when people think their cleverness has somehow exceeded the boundaries of life. Here it is in a nutshell: you already know what truth is--- otherwise, how do you think you could possibly make a true statement about its existence?
How am I playing games and what the hell does 'agreement with reality' mean? Can I disagree with reality? When I am acting untruthfully am I being in some way unreal? To use a phrase bbarr coined, that's just word soup.
03 Mar 10
Originally posted by PhlabibitOkay, but can we agree that all definitions should not contain inconsitencies or ambiguities, such as Freaky's do.
The problem with the definition of integrity is the line "especially moral".
You have to realize there is more than one way to define integrity.
This is like my argument about "is chess a sport". Everyone thinks of sports as athletics, and ignores 'sports' as a hobby or way to pass time.
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03 Mar 10
Originally posted by FreakyKBHI'm not, I'm making a consistent one. In a non-colloquial arena, truth is something for the faithful to pick their teeth on whilst they wait for judgement day.
I find it comical when people think their cleverness has somehow exceeded the boundaries of life. Here it is in a nutshell: you already know what truth is--- otherwise, how do you think you could possibly make a true statement about its existence?
03 Mar 10
Originally posted by PhlabibitLike I said, words change their meaning over time and use. I prefaced the definition with the source of the definition: old dictionaries and boring, established principles. That someone today can posit that even pedophiles can be said to have integrity only goes to show how effed up things have become--- all detached from reality, and whatnot.
The problem with the definition of integrity is the line "especially moral".
You have to realize there is more than one way to define integrity.
This is like my argument about "is chess a sport". Everyone thinks of sports as athletics, and ignores 'sports' as a hobby or way to pass time.
P-
03 Mar 10
Originally posted by FreakyKBHThere are many possible ways.
I find it comical when people think their cleverness has somehow exceeded the boundaries of life. Here it is in a nutshell: you already know what truth is--- otherwise, how do you think you could possibly make a true statement about its existence?
For example, take the statement "FreakyKBH is not wearing an eye patch". Do I know that to be the truth? No, I guessed.
03 Mar 10
Originally posted by StarrmanReally, Starrman? Did you really just make a true statement? The pathetic thing is that you can't see the irony.
I'm not, I'm making a consistent one. In a non-colloquial arena, truth is something for the faithful to pick their teeth on whilst they wait for judgement day.
03 Mar 10
Originally posted by FreakyKBHThe pathetic thing is that you are beating this horse to death without realising you're going the wrong way. I've defined my terms without being inconsistent and without using 'truth'. You've sidestepped every request for clarification and have merely brought in more undefined terms to try and get you out of trouble.
Really, Starrman? Did you really just make a true statement? The pathetic thing is that you can't see the irony.