20 Nov 07
Originally posted by PalynkaRed Night's campaign is entirely about lopping the heads of all who are in disagreement with Red Night. It's not about silencing people who say naughty words--it's about censoring ideas with which he does not agree. That might not be your position, but it's certainly what he is lobbying for. I haven't the first clue what Kirksey was banned for, nor do I care. If he said something naughty then he deserved the smack down he got. If he didn't, then he didn't.
I didn't accuse you of racism.
Nobody is "lynching" him or "lopping heads". He was banned for a few days for acting like a jerk, that's all. Many respectable posters have been banned before, I don't see why Kirksey should be entitled to special treatment.
And my beliefs are not weak. They are actually strong enough that I'm happy to defend someone that acts accordingly (like the Mod did)....
If your beliefs or your faith in your beliefs is such that you require competing beliefs to be silenced rather than defeated in a free exchange of ideas, then either your beliefs or your faith is weak.
And you'll get no kudos from me for your defending the actions of those with whom you agree. When you are willing to stand up for the rights of those with whom you disagree, then I may be impressed.
20 Nov 07
Originally posted by leisurelyslothSo, let me see if I have this straight. You are in favor of free speech for everyone but me?
Red Night's campaign is entirely about lopping the heads of all who are in disagreement with Red Night. It's not about silencing people who say naughty words--it's about censoring ideas with which he does not agree. That might not be your position, but it's certainly what he is lobbying for. I haven't the first clue what Kirksey was banned for, nor d ...[text shortened]... ing to stand up for the rights of those with whom you disagree, then I may be impressed.
20 Nov 07
I have looked over alot of these posts and most of it I find pretty nutty but I do wonder one thing....I played quite a few games with kirksey back in the day and had never known him to do anything that would get him banned...lord knows i probably said alot worse back then in the forums and through chat...ok back to my wonder...it must have been pretty bad mainly because of some of the flaming and insane drivel I see on here now that is going unchecked and those posters are still here and of course continuing on relentless tirades of complete nothingness.
I do wish kirksey was still here though...he was always fun to play with and always had something good to say.
Dave
20 Nov 07
Originally posted by nmdavidbKirk didn't do anything wrong.
I have looked over alot of these posts and most of it I find pretty nutty but I do wonder one thing....I played quite a few games with kirksey back in the day and had never known him to do anything that would get him banned...lord knows i probably said alot worse back then in the forums and through chat...ok back to my wonder...it must have been pretty bad ...[text shortened]... still here though...he was always fun to play with and always had something good to say.
Dave
20 Nov 07
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Originally posted by nmdavidbHe's still here, he was only banned from the forums for a few days. And just about anything can get you banned for a few days, sometimes it's something severe, sometimes it's hard to understand why it would even be removed.
I have looked over alot of these posts and most of it I find pretty nutty but I do wonder one thing....I played quite a few games with kirksey back in the day and had never known him to do anything that would get him banned...lord knows i probably said alot worse back then in the forums and through chat...ok back to my wonder...it must have been pretty bad ...[text shortened]... still here though...he was always fun to play with and always had something good to say.
Dave
20 Nov 07
Originally posted by Red NightI see no effort by the poster to suppress your speech. I see his post as criticizing your attempts to censor other people's speech, but I didn't see him saying you should be banned for making such efforts.
NO, I want people who support free speech to supress my right to free speech. 🙄🙄
20 Nov 07
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Originally posted by nmdavidbHe used a term that some consider having negative racial connotations though he didn't use it in that way. For an article on the term in wiki, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar_baby
I have looked over alot of these posts and most of it I find pretty nutty but I do wonder one thing....I played quite a few games with kirksey back in the day and had never known him to do anything that would get him banned...lord knows i probably said alot worse back then in the forums and through chat...ok back to my wonder...it must have been pretty bad ...[text shortened]... still here though...he was always fun to play with and always had something good to say.
Dave
"Specific reasons why the term developed negative racial aspects are difficult to identify, but are likely rooted in a basic misunderstanding of the meaning of the term".
EDIT: Wonder if that will get me banned?
20 Nov 07
Originally posted by no1marauderI never attempted to censor anyone's speech. I merely pointed out that it was wrong.
I see no effort by the poster to suppress your speech. I see his post as criticizing your attempts to censor other people's speech, but I didn't see him saying you should be banned for making such efforts.
Also, as you are aware:
1. This is not a "public forum"
2. I am not a governmental entity
3. RHP is a private entity
Therefore:
There is no real legal right to Free Speech here.
20 Nov 07
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Originally posted by Red NightThe first two sentences are outright lies as virtually everyone here knows. Are you claiming you've never alerted a post?
I never attempted to censor anyone's speech. I merely pointed out that it was wrong.
Also, as you are aware:
1. This is not a "public forum"
2. I am not a governmental entity
3. RHP is a private entity
Therefore:
There is no real legal right to Free Speech here.
No one is talking about a "legal" right. However the ToS grants certain contractual rights.
20 Nov 07
Originally posted by NordlysOh...sorry the way it seemed he was gone for good.
He's still here, he was only banned from the forums for a few days. And just about anything can get you banned for a few days, sometimes it's something severe, sometimes it's hard to understand why it would even be removed.
Dave
20 Nov 07
Originally posted by no1marauderActually you are wrong...this is not a "public forum" because you have to be a member to post here.
The first two sentences are outright lies as virtually everyone here knows. Are you claiming you've never alerted a post?
No one is talking about a "legal" right.
Dave
20 Nov 07
Originally posted by no1marauderI also had a post deleted in the thread in question.
The first two sentences are outright lies as virtually everyone here knows. Are you claiming you've never alerted a post?
No one is talking about a "legal" right. However the ToS grants certain contractual rights.