05 Jan 04
Originally posted by rwingettRob, you were so eloquent that for a moment I thought you were in the wrong forum. It sounded like an eloquent clan goad.
I didn't think it was possible to have a worse president than Reagan. But now Bush comes along and makes me realize that the Republicans are capable of stooping to depths of evil that I had not believed were humanly possible. It absolutley boggles the mind to think that for all the toxic levels of concentrated evil that seep from his every pore, there is still an endless reservoir within him waiting to be unleashed upon an unsuspecting world.
05 Jan 04
Geez oh man rwingett, I'm a moderate Democrat who disagrees with this administration pretty strongly, but I think you're going a bit overboard.
First, I think you're giving George W. Bush way too much credit for being involved in the current policies. Personally I don't think he has much say in anything that is going on, which is just fine by him.
And as wrong as Cheyney et. al. are, there's no comparison to Hitler. None.
05 Jan 04
Originally posted by stammerOh, stammer, can you not see? Has your moderation blinded you? Has Bush, that foul wretch of a beast, cast his web of illusions over your eyes? Can you not see past his annoying exterior into the heart of pure malice and evil that beats inexorably within his breast? Do not be decieved, stammer, he is far worse than Hitler. Worse than Attila the Hun. Worse than Sauron himself. He is the culmination and aggregation of all evil throughout all time concentrated into one entity.
Geez oh man rwingett, I'm a moderate Democrat who disagrees with this administration pretty strongly, but I think you're going a bit overboard.
First, I think you're giving George W. Bush way too much credit for being involved in the current policies. Personally I don't think he has much say in anything that is going on, which is just fine by him.
And as wrong as Cheyney et. al. are, there's no comparison to Hitler. None.
But even now it is not too late. Even at this late hour, at the very twilight of mankind itself, that living embodiment of evil itself can still be stopped. There is still a tiny glimmer of hope that the utter collapse of civilization can still be staved off. That shining, tiny glimmer of hope lies with...
...Howard Dean.
05 Jan 04
Originally posted by rwingettNo it doesn't. Natural Law Party all the way 😛!
Oh, stammer, can you not see? Has your moderation blinded you? Has Bush, that foul wretch of a beast, cast his web of illusions over your eyes? Can you not see past his annoying exterior into the heart of pure malice and evil that beats inexorably within his breast? Do not be decieved, stammer, he is far worse than Hitler. Worse than Attila the Hun. Worse t ...[text shortened]... ion can still be staved off. That shining, tiny glimmer of hope lies with...
...Howard Dean.
05 Jan 04
Originally posted by kirksey957I voted for Gore. But if we had a parliamentary system, I would have voted for Nader in a heartbeat. In a sensible state like Michigan, Gore didn't need my vote anyway. He carried the state handily. It's those darn Floridians that have unleashed this torrent of evil upon the earth.
I think Rob probably voted for Nader and can't stand it that he and his ilk are responsible for Bush being in the White House.
05 Jan 04
Originally posted by rwingettNo they didn't. Gore really had a plurality at least in Florida as well. It's just that if you are sufficiently poor in Florida your vote won't be counted.
I voted for Gore. But if we had a parliamentary system, I would have voted for Nader in a heartbeat. In a sensible state like Michigan, Gore didn't need my vote anyway. He carried the state handily. It's those darn Floridians that have unleashed this torrent of evil upon the earth.
05 Jan 04
Originally posted by royalchickenActually, it was probably old people that couldn't follow directions on the ballot that swung the election. But there is still no way of getting around the fact that Nader determined the election in Fl and consequently determined the election for the entire country.
No they didn't. Gore really had a plurality at least in Florida as well. It's just that if you are sufficiently poor in Florida your vote won't be counted.
05 Jan 04
Originally posted by kirksey957To be fair, Gore lost the election, Bush didn't win it. Gore had such a lousy campaign his entire staff would be best never to put it on their resume. Bush never had a major issue to run on and he never did anything special to unseat an essential incumbent. But instead of running on the successful and popular aspects of the Clinton administration - primarily their ability to balance the budget and it's eventual impact on the economy - he decided to turn himself into an archaic spend-and-tax man who was easily characterized by the right as a stereotypical liberal. His whole plan to blow the budget surplus killed him, and his unique ability in debates to make himself equal to Bush only added to his eventual downfall.
Actually, it was probably old people that couldn't follow directions on the ballot that swung the election. But there is still no way of getting around the fact that Nader determined the election in Fl and consequently determined the election for the entire country.
Blame Nader if you will, but Gore clearly was responsible for what happened.
06 Jan 04
Back to the point. I may be a 'foreigner' who doesn't fully understand the US system, but my point is this - There is no way in this world that Bush (or anyone like him) could become the Prime Minister in Britain. Tony Blair did not become Prime Minister because of his wealth, but because of his ability.
You may disagree with his politics (and many do) but you can't doubt the fact that his IQ is at least 3 times that of Bush. Havig said that it's probably higher than Ronald Reagans. When he was shown a map of Northern Ireland and told that the Orange bits were the protestant areas and the Green was the catholic areas he asked which section of the population was represented by the blue bit - of course that was Lake Neagh!! I rest my case.