Originally posted by Robert1983anything is funny if done in a funny way. I hate to use the same comedians as examples twice in the same thread, but take Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail - the black knight first has both his legs then both his arms cut off, then finally his head. In realisty it would be a horrible death, in this context it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
you say dieing a horrible death is funny?
Originally posted by belgianfreak
Although I sympathise that this might be a subject close to you, I think you may be being oversensitive.
I don't think Sep 11th, Diana's carcrash, the crucifiction nor any other events where suffering is the focal point is worth making fun at.
People actually experienced immense pain and suffering. Making a lighthearted statement about this is just about as amusing as making fun of terminally ill cancer patients. Wait, lemme guess, they have no sense of humour ? Can't laugh at themselves ?
Just try get some vague sense of insight as to what you really will be making fun of. Spend one day with an HIV infected child of 2 years, and I guarantee HIV humour of any sort will not be funny.
Point is, athiest making fun of Christ at their own meetings or forums ect really doesn't affect me. However in a public forum with 500+ members, perhaps just a little more caution is required when making fun of others. Curious, how many people here you think have been directly or indirectly affected by cancer. Thus, in my next thread, you don't think it would be monumentally insensitive to make a cancer joke ?
PS: Christians don't appreciate crucifiction jokes. It goes without saying.
Originally posted by pcaspianThe content of these forums will not be dictated by intolerant christians. If you are so offended by sensibilities contrary to your own, then perhaps you should just stick to pro-christian forums.
Originally posted by belgianfreak
[b]Although I sympathise that this might be a subject close to you, I think you may be being oversensitive.
I don't think Sep 11th, Diana's carcrash, the crucifiction nor any other events where suffering is the focal point is worth making fun at.
People actually experienced immense pain and suffering. ...[text shortened]... cancer joke ?
PS: Christians don't appreciate crucifiction jokes. It goes without saying.
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Originally posted by pcaspianOh, but there have been jokes about Sept 11th & Diana's car crash. I can't remember them and I wouldn't want to repeat the 9/11 ones but they exist because people do laugh at tragedy; it's part of our coping mechanism. I dare say that health professionals who work with cancer patients know more cancer jokes than anybody because they need to.
Originally posted by belgianfreak
[b]Although I sympathise that this might be a subject close to you, I think you may be being oversensitive.
I don't think Sep 11th, Diana's carcrash, the crucifiction nor any other events where suffering is the focal point is worth making fun at.
People actually experienced immense pain and suffering. ...[text shortened]... cancer joke ?
PS: Christians don't appreciate crucifiction jokes. It goes without saying.
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There's plenty of jokes about Altzeimers (sp?) disease, my favourite being that the comedian could say what he liked because sufferers wouldn't remember to write in & complain. But at the same time Alzeimers is one of the most horrific illnesses going, destroying one persons life while tearing them away from their loved ones one strip a a time.
And as for spending one day witha child with HIV, I have done. Her name was Anna and I spend 2 weeks with her and as tragic as her situation may be I won't boycott all HIV/AIDS jokes for the rest of my life.
As I said before, almost all jokes are making fun of someone else and they are rarely sutable for all occasions. But just because one joke hits a nerve with you doesn't mean others won't find it funny - just as something you find funny would offend someone else. Unless you plan to ban all non-PC humour?
Give me a good example of a joke that won't offend anyone. You may succeed but I think you'll get my point when you realise just how hard you had to search to find one.
nb. some Christian friends of mine loved the "Jesus on a rubber cross" one, so your line that christians don't appreciate crusifiction jokes isn't 100% accurate. Maybe your sort of christian don't, but as with all of these jokes there are some who can detatch the realisy (as painful or as serious as it may be) and appreciate the joke. I'm not saying everyone should or can, but you also con't say that no Christian can.
Originally posted by belgianfreak
As I said before, almost all jokes are making fun of someone else and they are rarely sutable for all occasions. But just because one joke hits a nerve with you doesn't mean others won't find it funny - just as something you find funny would offend someone else. Unless you plan to ban all non-PC humour?
Sheesh Belgian. Just imagine a funny little flash movie depicting blown up bodies in spain (South Park style). Irrespective of how funny it might be, do you really think it is appropriate, especially on a forum where we would have people personally affected by that event ?
Can you even imagine a flash movie with people jumping from the Twin towers and going splash at the bottom ? Again, in any way tastefull ?
This joke is not a hypothetical situation, its based on an event significant enough to greatly offend over one billion people today. If you can't understand why jokes that poke fun at suffering is distastefull (especially when communicated to a mass audience), it would probably only sink in when someone you care about is on the receiving end.
When making jokes on this forum (or any else for that matter) perhaps it is wise to think about whether you would tell that joke infront of a live group of people that you think might be offended. Making fun of a disabled person might be worth a few laughs, but not really when that person is in the same room... get the idea ?
Originally posted by rwingett
The content of these forums will not be dictated by intolerant christians. If you are so offended by sensibilities contrary to your own, then perhaps you should just stick to pro-christian forums.
LOL . Create a thread, knowing full well you will offend people on this site and THEN claim that those offended dictate the contents of the forum ?
I was going to answer in detail, but I'll try to simplyfy this. OK, you were offended. So now you tell a joke that won't offend anyone. They exist, but they are rare. I have thought of a couple of catagories:
Sheesh Belgian. Just imagine a funny little flash movie depicting blown up bodies in spain (South Park style). Irrespective of how funny it might be, do you really think it is appropriate, especially on a forum where we would have people personally affected by that event ?
Can you even imagine a flash movie with people jumping from the Twin towers and going splash at the bottom ? Ag ...[text shortened]... t be worth a few laughs, but not really when that person is in the same room... get the idea ?
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Why did the chicken cross the road? - wierd sureal jokes, mostly based on not acually being funny
Knock knock - cracker jokes which no adult actually finds funny
I daresay you'll find some, but you'll struggle. In the meantime let's start a list of all the topics that cannot be joked about at RHP:
Obviously any joke to do with race is out
same goes for country
religeon too
and politics; that's a subject some are very passionate about
none that are specific to 1 person; that's just mean
nothing to do with any illness or disability, real or perceived
nothing that segregates one section of society; that include lawyer jokes (they always upset my father)
sex and sexuality must be rulled out
we may never laugh again.
Belgianfreak's post seems to have given me a narrow window of opportunity to post a politically incorrect joke. Anyone offended can blame him.
A truck driver doing the long haul from Melbourne to Perth gives a lift to a priest. Later, as he's barrelling down the road, he sees an Abo ahead, he plants the foot down, and speeds towards him. At the last moment he remembers he's got the priest on board, and swerves, just missing the Abo.
"I'm terribly sorry about that, Father".
"That's OK, my son, I got him with the door".
Originally posted by pcaspianShould we check with you on everything to make sure it meets with your approval before posting it? Nobody made you go to the posted website and watch the thing.
Originally posted by rwingett
[b]The content of these forums will not be dictated by intolerant christians. If you are so offended by sensibilities contrary to your own, then perhaps you should just stick to pro-christian forums.
LOL . Create a thread, knowing full well you will offend people on this site and THEN claim that those offended dictate the contents of the forum ?
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Go to the moderators and try to get them to take it down if it offends you so mightily, don't waste your time arguing with me.
Originally posted by belgianfreak
I was going to answer in detail, but I'll try to simplyfy this. OK, you were offended. So now you tell a joke that won't offend anyone. They exist, but they are rare. I have thought of a couple of catagories:
I daresay you'll find some, but you'll struggle. In the meantime let's start a list of all the topics that cannot be joked about at RHP:
Obviously any joke to do with race is out
same goes for country
religeon too
and politics; that's a subject some are very passionate about
none that are specific to 1 person; that's just mean
nothing to do with any illness or disability, real or perceived
nothing that segregates one section of society; that include lawyer jokes (they always upset my father)
sex and sexuality must be rulled out
we may never laugh again.
Difference is that 9//11, Spain, or crucifixion jokes are about tragic events. Same goes for serious or other harming disabilities. You know what, When in a room with a blind guy, the last joke I'll make is one about "a blind guy walks into a bar". Simply because it is disrespectfull.
You're on a public forum where everyone will read your post. We have all built up some sort of resistance to jokes that might offend us, thus we tend to be able to handle the odd "Pope, Clinton and Osama" jokes. However I am telling you that making fun about the immense suffering one man had to ensure is simply faux pas. Same with cancer jokes, 9/11 or Spain bomb blast jokes.
Tell me, why is it acceptable here to poke fun of the death and suffering of someone ? People suffer and DIE and their families are severely affected by death. Yes 100 000 died in Hiroshima and you probably didn't know any of them, but does that give you reason to make fun of them ?
Originally posted by rwingettWell isn't that the pot calling the kettle black! rwingett, it you had your way, only atheists would be allowed to express their opinions. Mention God and suddenly it's - don't push you religion on me you intolerant holy roller! Give me a break!
The content of these forums will not be dictated by intolerant christians. If you are so offended by sensibilities contrary to your own, then perhaps you should just stick to pro-christian forums.
Have a happy day! 🙂