01 Mar 09
Originally posted by NordlysTrue, it only seems like one example, and his methods don't seem entirely scientific. I guess it persists because it seems scientific and therefore most people tend to give it more credence.
I hadn't heard of it, but googled it. The Snopes article about it is quite interesting: http://www.snopes.com/religion/soulweight.asp
So yes, that study exists, but besides being rather fishy, not even that study claims that every soul weighs 21 g.
Interesting that the move 21 Grams took its title from this idea. I never saw that film; I might take a look now if I can find it.
01 Mar 09
Originally posted by utherpendragonYou may know it without a doubt, but this does not make it fact.
i agree,but my point was there has been scientific study concerning the soul.i dont know if its true or not (21 grams). i am not a scientist. but i do know with out a doubt, for a fact , life is eternal.Our spirit does go on. we are all spirit.this physical body and world we are using will pass though.
It is still a matter of Faith, which is an important distinction.
I, too, know without a doubt there is life beyond the grave, but it is my Faith, not a fact.
Those who come back from "near-death experiences" seem to corroborate it, but this is still far from "fact".
01 Mar 09
Originally posted by Suzianneno. actually it is fact for me. I was declared dead. Then brought back. And, I remember vividly the point in between.this body was dead.But the true "me",if you will, was quite aware.
You may know it without a doubt, but this does not make it fact.
It is still a matter of Faith, which is an important distinction.
I, too, know without a doubt there is life beyond the grave, but it is my Faith, not a fact.
Those who come back from "near-death experiences" seem to corroborate it, but this is still far from "fact".
01 Mar 09
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Originally posted by utherpendragonFair enough.
no. actually it is fact for me. I was declared dead. Then brought back. And, I remember vividly the point in between.this body was dead.But the true "me",if you will, was quite aware.
You are truly blessed to be given that experience.
Edit: This is excellent testimony for the existence of the soul.
01 Mar 09
Originally posted by highflier934One of the points of that verse is that you can indeed do anything with God's help, if you only believe... but only IF it is the will of God.
Well, hopefully one day we may all move mountains. 😛
I'm just using it to illustrate that it is my faith that is immense, not my ego. 😛
01 Mar 09
Originally posted by zozozozoMaybe you could start by asking yourself what constitutes life and what constitutes death. I'm not talking about the Wikepedia version, I'm talking about zozo's version.
If there was some sort of absolute proof of the existance of souls i would like to learn about it, yes i would be very interested.
01 Mar 09
Originally posted by Grampy Bobbybeing declared dead, covered with a sheet by the medical personal,for nearly 2 hours and watching it all take place from outside yourself,conversing with deceased loved ones,not to mention the Lord,is dead. I do not expect you to understand, but there is life after death.
Temporary cessation of heart function (EKG) or partial loss of vital signs does not constitute or define death. Loss of brain waves (EEG) does.
Edit: Reason it does is because loss of brain waves signifys the soul's departure from the body.
01 Mar 09
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Originally posted by utherpendragonThere is mother dependent biological life in the womb. At the moment of physical birth, God imputes a soul and breathes human life into the
being declared dead, covered with a sheet by the medical personal,for nearly 2 hours and watching it all take place from outside yourself,conversing with deceased loved ones,not to mention the Lord,is dead. I do not expect you to understand, but there is life after death.
fetus. Your vanity mirror displays a temporary tent. At physical death, your immortal soul departs for one of two destinations for all eternity.
01 Mar 09
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI respectfully disagree with this.
At physical death, your immortal soul departs for one of two destinations for all eternity.
I won't go into intricate detail of exactly what I believe happens in the afterlife, for fear of either ridicule or yawning, but I think the "near-death experiences" people have is a tiny glimpse into what happens. They come back because it is not their time to go.
I think you go to a "holding area" if you will, to await Judgement Day.
Until you are judged, you cannot go to your final everlasting reward, be it Life, or Death.