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@drewnogal saidIt does at least address the issue that gun violence in America cannot continue to be attributed to single outlier individuals; it's a collective social menace which must be dealt with collectively.
So the kid should get his sentence reduced if his parents as good as placed the gun in his hands? As it currently stands I think he’s to be detained forever.
Is this the first time a prosecuting attorney has ever ‘thought’ of asking how an under age kid got hold of a gun? Good for her I say. So there could be a number of appeals coming up by under age, imprisoned shooters.
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@drewnogal saidTrue, but in that case the perpetrators weren't known to be unhinged, and the parents didn't buy the murder weapon.
That’s what I thought.
We recently had an unusual situation here in the UK whereby the mother of a murdered girl initiated meeting with the mother of one of the two youngsters who killed her daughter. She said that they were both parents who had each lost a child.
@drewnogal saidThere are thousands of laws, Drewnogal, but people still can get their hands on a gun.
Strange isn’t it? Everyone is expected to take driving lessons and then a test before they take a car on the road unsupervised. I wonder what safeguards exist to check upon potential gun owners?
How Many Gun Laws In The Us? - Law info
There are 20,000 different firearms laws now in effect. The National Rifle Association and other pro-gun organizations have frequently touted the 20,000 gun laws that currently exist on the books as reasons why stronger enforcement, rather than additional legislation, is the answer to the problem of gun violence
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https://bartleylawoffice.com/interesting/how-many-gun-laws-in-the-us.html#google_vignette
@earl-of-trumps said”It is commonly asserted that the United States has more than 20,000 gun laws on the books at local, state and federal levels. Those who oppose increased controls argue that it’s only necessary to enforce these laws to bring firearms violence under control.
There are thousands of laws, Drewnogal, but people still can get their hands on a gun.
How Many Gun Laws In The Us? - Law info
There are 20,000 different firearms laws now in effect. The National Rifle Association and other pro-gun organizations have frequently touted the 20,000 gun laws that currently exist on the books as reasons why stronger enforcement ...[text shortened]... -------
https://bartleylawoffice.com/interesting/how-many-gun-laws-in-the-us.html#google_vignette
But what they rarely mention–or may not even know–is that most of these laws do not regulate the sale or possession of guns but have to do with zoning regulations for gun stores, the transport and discharge of firearms within municipal boundaries, et cetera. Thus, whether gun laws actually total 20,000 or more, they have had little or no impact on the ability of citizens–of both criminal and benign intent–to obtain guns.”
https://vpc.org/publications/cease-fire-a-comprehensive-strategy-to-reduce-firearms-violence/a-brief-history-of-firearms-law/
I found this video on the Sandy Hook Promise website. We’re asked to share it of we want to help reduce gun violence in schools so here it is. You may want to watch it a second time. I’m wondering if anyone here has ever seen it? It’s had over 14 million views in 7 years.
https://www.sandyhookpromise.org/blog/gun-violence/know-the-signs-of-gun-violence/
https://www.britannica.com/event/Sandy-Hook-Elementary-School-shooting
@drewnogal said"It takes a village to raise a child." When a child is lost to criminality, the village has failed by neglecting the signs.
I found this video on the Sandy Hook Promise website. We’re asked to share it of we want to help reduce gun violence in schools so here it is. You may want to watch it a second time. I’m wondering if anyone here has ever seen it? It’s had over 14 million views in 7 years.
[youtube]A8syQeFtBKc?si=PBRzVzd94ylgUCWC[/youtube]
https://www.sandyhookpromise.org/blog/gun-vio ...[text shortened]... the-signs-of-gun-violence/
https://www.britannica.com/event/Sandy-Hook-Elementary-School-shooting
@torunn saidSchool based, counsellor support for kids is vital. I recall a brilliant woman who provided a very informal way whereby kids could refer themselves or even just knock her door if she was free. Her door was in a busy thoroughfare area so easy to unobtrusively access at break times. She offered them a cuppa and let them chat in a very informal way. She was highly experienced so well aware of when she needed to make a referral to the mental health / social services depts. Quite often things can be resolved at an informal level before it snowballs into something more serious.
"It takes a village to raise a child." When a child is lost to criminality, the village has failed by neglecting the signs.
When she retired she wasn’t replaced. Big mistake! Today I see that the school counselling services in Wales are again being taken more seriously as it eases the load upon the current crippled child & adolescent mental health services.
@drewnogal saidSo right, it is the early efforts that are crucial. Some families can't cope on their own, my family was one of them. We were well aware what had to be done at the time, and it took all of our time and energy to get there, with the help of social assistance - without it, it wouldn't be possible. We are very grateful today.
School based, counsellor support for kids is vital. I recall a brilliant woman who provided a very informal way whereby kids could refer themselves or even just knock her door if she was free. Her door was in a busy thoroughfare area so easy to unobtrusively access at break times. She offered them a cuppa and let them chat in a very informal way. She was highly experienced ...[text shortened]... seriously as it eases the load upon the current crippled child & adolescent mental health services.
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There will always be those who say guns don't kill people. It is the people who use them that kill people. It is way too easy for someone to get a gun if they really want one and want to hurt people. They can be obtained for as little as 50.00 Canadian dollars and have more than likely been involved in other killings. I don't know if there is actually away to control them, from being sold.
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@divegeester saidCorrect.
[i]”It is commonly asserted that the United States has more than 20,000 gun laws on the books at local, state and federal levels. Those who oppose increased controls argue that it’s only necessary to enforce these laws to bring firearms violence under control.
But what they rarely mention–or may not even know–is that most of these laws do not regulate the sale or posse ...[text shortened]... ons/cease-fire-a-comprehensive-strategy-to-reduce-firearms-violence/a-brief-history-of-firearms-law/
So, new laws that actually require punishment for infraction, ARE needed.
@very-rusty saidLet's see them kill people with, say, a rubber band.
There will always be those who say guns don't kill people. It is the people who use them that kill people. It is way too easy for someone to get a gun if they really want one and want to hurt people. They can be obtained for as little as 50.00 Canadian dollars and have more than likely been involved in other killings. I don't know if there is actually away to control them, from being sold.
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The gun is intrinsic in the deaths. They make killing too easy.
@drewnogal saidAnd there are still demented gun fanatics who claim that the shootings in Sandy Hook were faked. Thanks for nothing, Alex Jones.
I found this video on the Sandy Hook Promise website. We’re asked to share it of we want to help reduce gun violence in schools so here it is. You may want to watch it a second time. I’m wondering if anyone here has ever seen it? It’s had over 14 million views in 7 years.
[youtube]A8syQeFtBKc?si=PBRzVzd94ylgUCWC[/youtube]
https://www.sandyhookpromise.org/blog/gun-vio ...[text shortened]... the-signs-of-gun-violence/
https://www.britannica.com/event/Sandy-Hook-Elementary-School-shooting
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@drewnogal saidCoincidentally, Sandy Hook was on the news the other day. But it was not about gun control. It was about conspiracy theories control.
I found this video on the Sandy Hook Promise website. We’re asked to share it of we want to help reduce gun violence in schools so here it is. You may want to watch it a second time. I’m wondering if anyone here has ever seen it? It’s had over 14 million views in 7 years.
[youtube]A8syQeFtBKc?si=PBRzVzd94ylgUCWC[/youtube]
https://www.sandyhookpromise.org/blog/gun-vio ...[text shortened]... the-signs-of-gun-violence/
https://www.britannica.com/event/Sandy-Hook-Elementary-School-shooting
Kids idolizing professional sport figures is not all fun and games.
In a CNN story Wednesday, reporter Pamela Brown described an interaction she had with Rodgers in 2013, in which he falsely claimed that the Sandy Hook attack ― which left 20 children and six adults dead ― was orchestrated by the government.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/sandy-hook-lawyer-aaron-rodgers-shut-up_n_65f335ece4b0dddcf7bd37e7?yptr=yahoo