29 Apr 08
Originally posted by DraxusYou obviously don't visit too many other forums then.
The main reason why I am not a paying member of this site any longer is because of heavy handed, fanatical and ridiculously misguided moderation.
These are some of the most open forums I've ever used - Except the 'anything goes' ones, but there is never actual conversation and debate there.
29 Apr 08
Originally posted by DraxusPersonal explation to members, yes... which is the site's practice. Public disclosure of those messages
I only disagree with one thing you said. Moderators are under an obligation to explain why they censor how they do. When someone pays for a service, they have the right to ask for an explanation as to why the business, or people representing the business, act in certain ways. Instead they have always argued and justified their position, rather than trying ...[text shortened]... heir treatment of other people. Of course, nobody noticed or cared, but that doesn't matter 🙂
regarding decisions/actions taken would be unproductive and way outside the realm of need to know.
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29 Apr 08
Originally posted by PhlabibitWhoa! I never got a message. I had to seek out an explanation from Catfoodtim as I recall. Maybe that is what you meant and I misunderstood you. All that aside, the other long thread on moderation I think at the very least shows 1) moderators are in control and 2) there will always be value judgements about what should and shouldn't be moderated.
...and you have not given any examples of the awful moderation while mods HAVE explained why posts are removed.
Each user gets a message explaining, and is encouraged to use site feedback if they don't agree with a removed post.
Posts have been removed, and even moderators have not agreed, so they talk about it.
I clearly explained why kirk's post ...[text shortened]... of it being explained to him in a message apon removal.
So, please eplain your post.
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30 Apr 08
Originally posted by shavixmirI'm alerting the moderator. 😛
It's not what moderation can do to you, it's what you can do to moderation
- Shavixmir -
All hail the TOS and the TOSsers who love to finger-wag, whine and betray; traitors to free speech, back-stabbers to rationality and slaves to Big Brother's false Christian morality.
God damn, my brothers, you do make me proud!
So, what has moder ...[text shortened]... Horridulum
Not because I can, but because they don't understand it... Go figure...[/b]
30 Apr 08
Originally posted by kirksey957I see you were not sent a message on removal. Most likely because we've talked about this subject before (mods and you).
Whoa! I never got a message. I had to seek out an explanation from Catfoodtim as I recall. Maybe that is what you meant and I misunderstood you. All that aside, the other long thread on moderation I think at the very least shows 1) moderators are in control and 2) there will always be value judgements about what should and shouldn't be moderated.
As for mods being in control, I'd love a lot more feedback from Russ on the subject. It is very rare he says anything on the subject, even when it's him who erased a post or thread.
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30 Apr 08
Originally posted by PhlabibitYou seriously, honestly expect me to give you a full report on every removed post that I have disagreed with?
...and you have not given any examples of the awful moderation while mods HAVE explained why posts are removed.
Each user gets a message explaining, and is encouraged to use site feedback if they don't agree with a removed post.
Posts have been removed, and even moderators have not agreed, so they talk about it.
I clearly explained why kirk's post ...[text shortened]... of it being explained to him in a message apon removal.
So, please eplain your post.
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I've been here for years, it ain't likely that I am going to remember that stuff.
30 Apr 08
Originally posted by DraxusGod forbid you come up with an example or 2. It can't be that bad if you don't remember a single example.
You seriously, honestly expect me to give you a full report on every removed post that I have disagreed with?
I've been here for years, it ain't likely that I am going to remember that stuff.
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30 Apr 08
Originally posted by PhlabibitLike I said, it has been years. Probably over 2 since I had a membership.
God forbid you come up with an example or 2. It can't be that bad if you don't remember a single example.
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The mods are probably different now, I would guess. However, 2-3 years ago the debates board was a LOT more interesting, and stuff was getting censored left and right.
30 Apr 08
Originally posted by PhlabibitNah, Shav's just been under the weather with that new succamicoccus disease that's been going around. I've heard you get that disease every few months too.
God forbid you come up with an example or 2. It can't be that bad if you don't remember a single example.
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