14 Aug 04
Originally posted by pradtfI do not wish to include the PM in this discussion. I posted that to show that the exchange between Exy and myself is irrelevant because there is nothing objectionable about that PM anyway.
this is quite correct. that is the PM he sent to me. i really have no idea why as i told you earlier via PM.
what is the point you are trying to make?
in friendship,
prad
14 Aug 04
Originally posted by pradtfPrad, this is like talking Bioethics with Ivanhoe. I've already made it clear that I believe the sentence ''Cribs was banned due to a PM he sent'' to be false.
i'm still trying to clear up what rc is talking about regarding cribs getting banned for a PM?
i don't know where that is coming from.
in friendship,
prad
14 Aug 04
Originally posted by royalchickenwho has been discussing PMs?
I do have the idea that a discussion of Cribs' ban should not include a discussion of PMs..
unless you are talking about what i wrote earlier - where i meant the PMs discussed between you and me the past hour.
i clarified that with an edit, because someone told me that may be it wasn't clear who the PMs were in between.
was that the problem?
in friendship,
prad
14 Aug 04
Originally posted by royalchickenThat's abusive? God, I'm never gonna PM anybody again; 90% of mine are worse than that!
Cribs' one PM to pradtf, printed by Cribs' permission:
"You got my posting privilege revoked. Well done.
You won't have to hear from me any more in the
forums. You are now completely free to have only
your views heard. Enjoy your reign. You should
be ashamed.
Dr. Cribs"
14 Aug 04
Originally posted by pradtfLet's make a list.
who has been discussing PMs?
unless you are talking about what i wrote earlier - where i meant the PMs discussed between you and me the past hour.
i clarified that with an edit, because someone told me that may be it wasn't clear who the PMs were in between.
was that the problem?
in friendship,
prad
1.You mentioned a PM from Cribs in a sentence which I later quoted.
2.I am discussing Cribs' forum behavior and how it got him banned
3.In view of 1, I clarified my belief that PMs are not related to forum bans
4.You seem to agree with 3
5.I posted Cribs' PM at Cribs' request, to show that even people who disagree with 3 still can't support Cribs ban on those grounds, because his PM (which I posted) is not objectionable
6.Our PM exchange is irrelevant here, because this is a public discussion.
14 Aug 04
Originally posted by no1maraudernow wait a second!
That's abusive? God, I'm never gonna PM anybody again; 90% of mine are worse than that!
who said that was abusive? i certainly didn't.
that was just what cribs' sent to me, because he was ticked he was banned - and for some reason he seems to think i had something to do with it.
in friendship,
prad
14 Aug 04
1 edit
Originally posted by pradtfSee, it's really easy. Apparently the maurader disagrees with 3. However, we acknowledge that this still has nothing to do with anything since we all agree that EITHER PMs don't matter wrt forum banning OR Cribs' PM was non-offensive OR both.
now wait a second!
who said that was abusive? i certainly didn't.
that was just what cribs' sent to me, because he was ticked he was banned - and for some reason he seems to think i had something to do with it.
in friendship,
prad
Honestly.
14 Aug 04
i]Originally posted by royalchicken[/i]
Let's make a list.
1.You mentioned a PM from Cribs in a sentence which I later quoted.
yes in our recent discussions, i told you cribs had sent me the PM you quoted
2.I am discussing Cribs' forum behavior and how it got him banned
yes i realize that
3.In view of 1, I clarified my belief that PMs are not related to forum bans
ok
4.You seem to agree with 3
ok, possibly
5.I posted Cribs' PM at Cribs' request, to show that even people who disagree with 3 still can't support Cribs ban on those grounds, because his PM (which I posted) is not objectionable
well that's fine, but i am not aware of anyone supporting the ban
6.Our PM exchange is irrelevant here, because this is a public discussion.
our PM discussion was where you wanted 'my take' - and i told you what i knew
so i still don't know what you want me to address, rc.
in friendship,
prad
14 Aug 04
Originally posted by royalchickenwhat exactly does cribs PM have to do with any of this?
See, it's really easy. Apparently the maurader disagrees with 3. However, we acknowledge that this still has nothing to do with anything since we all agree that EITHER PMs don't matter wrt forum banning OR Cribs' PM was non-offensive OR both.
Honestly.
let's start there.
in friendship,
prad
14 Aug 04
Originally posted by royalchickenI have no idea whether pm's are related to forum bans; I just said that Cribs pm wasn't abusive. If a pm can get you banned from the site, however, I don't see why it wouldn't be grounds for the lesser punishment of getting you banned from the forums. It's still very unclear to me what Cribs was banned for; I haven't seen anything (besides his annoying "debating" style) which desires banning.
See, it's really easy. Apparently the maurader disagrees with 3. However, we acknowledge that this still has nothing to do with anything since we all agree that EITHER PMs don't matter wrt forum banning OR Cribs' PM was non-offensive OR both.
Honestly.
14 Aug 04
Originally posted by pradtfPrad, I had nothing in particular I wanted you to address--you made several posts initially in response to the first one. I then responded to your concerns. I also sent you a PM apologizing for my sharp tone, and explaining the reason for that--I assumed that would be left at that. 'Our PM discussion' was born out of your reply to that PM, which, while very nice, was the first PM between us to mention the issues in this thread in a specific way. Since then, you have introduced objections to various things I have said in this thread, and I have answered them. Apparently you want me to address things, not the other way around.
i]Originally posted by royalchicken[/i]
[b]Let's make a list.
1.You mentioned a PM from Cribs in a sentence which I later quoted.
yes in our recent discussions, i told you cribs had sent me the PM you quoted
2.I am discussing Cribs' forum behavior and how it got him banned
yes i realize that
3.In view of 1, I clarified my belief t ...[text shortened]... w[/i]
so i still don't know what you want me to address, rc.
in friendship,
prad[/b]
Now that you mention it, however, I would like to have your ideas about who alerted the mods in that thread and why.
14 Aug 04
Originally posted by no1marauderand just so this is unmistakably clear to anyone and everyone reading this, he couldn't have been banned for sending me that PM, because he was already banned as he wrote in the PM.
I have no idea whether pm's are related to forum bans; I just said that Cribs pm wasn't abusive. If a pm can get you banned from the site, however, I don't see why it wouldn't be grounds for the lesser punishment of getting you banned from the forums. It's still very unclear to me what Cribs was banned for; I haven't seen anything (besides his annoying "debating" style) which desires banning.
in friendship,
prad
14 Aug 04
Originally posted by pradtfPrad, in your (and my) opinion, Cribs PM has nothing to do with this. However, to remove it as ammunition from people who do not share this belief, I posted it, to indicate that it was not offensive, even thohugh that does not, in your opinion, or mine, matter.
what exactly does cribs PM have to do with any of this?
let's start there.
in friendship,
prad