Moderational Inconsistency

Originally posted by pradtf
and just so this is unmistakably clear to anyone and everyone reading this, he couldn't have been banned for sending me that PM, because he was already banned as he wrote in the PM.

in friendship,
prad

Originally posted by pradtf
and just so this is unmistakably clear to anyone and everyone reading this, he couldn't have been banned for sending me that PM, because he was already banned as he wrote in the PM.

in friendship,
prad

We'll start this again. I wish to discuss two related issues.

1. A major poster has been banned even as his opinions in other threads are considered somewhat controversial. One of the people discussing his opinions was also somehow involved in the thread in which this person (Cribs) was banned, and Cribs feels this person has something to do with it. I believe the circumstances of the ban, as well as the moderator's and Russ's thoughts should be made public so that they may be discussed and so that Cribs' privileges may be, if suitable, reinstated.

2. The ToS criteria for what gets one moderated and banned should be clarified.

3.Moderation procedures should be clarified and possibly altered.

Talk amongst yourselves.

Originally posted by royalchicken
Since then, you have introduced objections to various things I have said in this thread, and I have answered them. Apparently you want me to address things, not the other way around.

Now that you mention it, however, I would like to have your ideas about who alerted the mods in that thread and why.

Originally posted by skeeter

PS ..and I know who my money is on.

Originally posted by pradtf
i don't want you to address anything, now that you have clarified what is going on in this post.
i still hold to my objections - mods criticisms should not be done publically.

i already told you via PM earlier that i came into the thread later. in fact, the specific comment cribs made about me was not there - in fact, i see that was obviously what he was ...[text shortened]... that i didn't nor did i ask anyone else to.

is there anything else?

in friendship,
prad

Originally posted by royalchicken
One of the people discussing his opinions was also somehow involved in the thread in which this person (Cribs) was banned, and Cribs feels this person has something to do with it.

Originally posted by pradtf
ok. so are you saying that i'm that person who was involved in the thread?
is that what this is all about?

in friendship,
prad

If this thread now only focuses on the issue of Cribs it will amount to nothing. No doubt he is already fighting his corner to reinstate his posting rights.

However, I thought the whole point by illustrating that people have not been banned for far more was to improve the efficiency of the moderation of the forums, as in my mind all of those posts probably merited a caution if not an immediate ban.

I think the 3 strikes and you're out approach should apply, to make sure people who are unable to moderate themselves are warned before having their posting privileges removed from them. If people are made aware of the consequence of their actions then they will, by and large, keep themselves in line.

Originally posted by royalchicken
Come to think of it, yes.

I agree that moderators issues are usually slight and can be clarified with a PM. However, why do you think that even large moderation issues affecting the entire community should not be publicly discussed? What separates them from issues of similar importance which can be discussed?

Originally posted by royalchicken
I'm not interested in any vendetta between you and Cribs. It is merely a fact that you were involved with this thread and therefore have shaped the events in some way. That's not a bad thing, but it is as true as that 2+2 < 17 and that I'm currently very smelly.

Originally posted by pradtf
who michelle?

in friendship,
prad

Originally posted by pradtf
well why didn't you just ask me?

i already told you i didn't push the button, i told you i didn't ask anyone to push the button.

i don't know what you mean by shaped the events in some way. i came into the thread, asked cribs he s ...[text shortened]... ave done here? (you know the smelly thing)

in friendship,
prad

Originally posted by skeeter
Sorry prad, but I'm bound by an undertaking I gave to "Flash" that I would not provoke further this particular person and so to name him, and thereby held to be departing from that agreement, would almost certainly find me in Cribs's position. But I'm as equally sure that you, as are most other readers in the forums, can read between the lines so me thinks the question was rhteorically mischievious.😉

skeeter

Originally posted by skeeter
Sorry prad, but I'm bound by an undertaking I gave to "Flash" that I would not provoke further this particular person and so to name him, and thereby held to be departing from that agreement, would almost certainly find me in Cribs's p ...[text shortened]... me thinks the question was rhteorically mischievious.😉

skeeter