Prince Harry’s latest revelations

@very-rusty said
I believe it has a lot to do with people in the Royal family not respecting his wife because of her color. I am pretty sure that is talked about in the book, although I haven't had a chance to read it yet.

-VR

Will you read it when it is published in Canada?

@shallow-blue said
It's not a pattern.

Younger heirs of previous monarchs have succeeded the throne, and done well enough.

Edward is younger than Andrew, and is doing a lot better. OK, a sack of bricks would do better than Andrew, but still - Edward is doing well enough.

Other younger heirs have married heirs of other countries and done well there, too.

It's all about individua ...[text shortened]... rry has a prickly one which doesn't serve him well. Nothing to do with being second in line as such.

I disagree and I’m not talking about ALL royal families anyway.

The three I mentioned were all born immediately after the child who was in direct line to the throne - so we can forget about Edward or Anne as they weren’t. These 3 would have been made aware from a very early age that their closest ‘big’ brother or sister was being primed for something very special in life. You think that had no impact whatsoever upon them? You don’t think that would have set the scene for sibling rivalry between two young children a couple of years apart with the younger one always feeling they were in shadow of the more important one? And as for individual character that’s not something that’s set in stone from birth but is shaped by each individual’s personal experience of growing up as in nature v nurture.

Some may feel able to deal with it yes, but this particular three haven’t. That’s my view.

@woodgirl said
I disagree and I’m not talking about ALL royal families anyway.

The three I mentioned were all born immediately after the child who was in direct line to the throne - so we can forget about Edward or Anne as they weren’t. These 3 would have been made aware from a very early age that their closest ‘big’ brother or sister was being primed for something very special in life ...[text shortened]... ture.

Some may feel able to deal with it yes, but this particular three haven’t. That’s my view.

I really do hope that Harry’s life doesn’t end up quite as miserable or disastrous as that of his great aunt or uncle.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I haven't been able to eat a strawberry since viewing something on Facebook.

(Won't elaborate as wouldn't want to put others off).

maggots

@moonbus said
He didn’t ask to be born with a silver spoon in his older brother’s mouth, after all.

That's true but nobody asks to be born into anything.
You just have to play the cards you are dealt.

@woodgirl said
I really do hope that Harry’s life doesn’t end up quite as miserable or disastrous as that of his great aunt or uncle.

If it does it will be his own stupid entitled fault. He has far more opportunity to make a huge success of his life than most people in the world. He’s an manipulative narcissist like his mother.

@divegeester said
If it does it will be his own stupid entitled fault. He has far more opportunity to make a huge success of his life than most people in the world. He’s an manipulative narcissist like his mother.

He and his family have better financial circumstances than most people, he has no right to complain about anything, it's up to him now to make something good with his life.

@torunn said
He and his family have better financial circumstances than most people, he has no right to complain about anything, it's up to him now to make something good with his life.

Indeed. If he has father and sibling issues then he should take it up with them privately. The whole thing is so tawdry.

The Afghanistan revelations are stupidity of the highest order; he’s putting himself, his family, the Invictus Games at risk from extremists. Also his army colleagues are feeling disappointed and exposed.

@the-gravedigger said
That's true but nobody asks to be born into anything.
You just have to play the cards you are dealt.

Being born into ‘The Firm’ as they call themselves, isn’t a cake walk. A normal family life isn’t possible for them, and,as others have pointed out, some members of the royal family have coped with it better than others. Edward found a role for himself and toed the line; Andrew didn’t. I don’t envy any of them, or their spouses. Imagine one of them coming out gay or gender-mis-labeled. Wouldn’t go down well; the person would have to stay closeted and be miserable his whole life.

@moonbus said
Being born into ‘The Firm’ as they call themselves, isn’t a cake walk. A normal family life isn’t possible for them, and,as others have pointed out, some members of the royal family have coped with it better than others. Edward found a role for himself and toed the line; Andrew didn’t. I don’t envy any of them, or their spouses. Imagine one of them coming out gay or gender-mi ...[text shortened]... eled. Wouldn’t go down well; the person would have to stay closeted and be miserable his whole life.

Yes, fair comment.

@moonbus said
He didn’t ask to be born with a silver spoon in his older brother’s mouth, after all.

His older brother has to take office for that spoon. Harry's spoon is just as silver, and he has no responsibilities for it. But he's the one yammering.

@very-rusty said
I believe it has a lot to do with people in the Royal family not respecting his wife because of her color.

That's just secondary. Harry did some distasteful things long before he knew her.

I'm not defending the royal family's attitude on race, mind you. But the problems with Harry started long before he decided to make race his defense.

@woodgirl said
I disagree and I’m not talking about ALL royal families anyway.

The three I mentioned were all born immediately after the child who was in direct line to the throne - so we can forget about Edward or Anne as they weren’t. These 3 would have been made aware from a very early age that their closest ‘big’ brother or sister was being primed for something very special in life. You think that had no impact whatsoever upon them?

Again: there have been many, many more second heirs in that position in European history. Most of them have done just fine. It's not about the position, it's about how these individuals react to it.

In fact, several first heirs have also gone off the rails. Just have a look at Ludwig II of Bavaria! Here, too, it is a matter of personal character, not of position: his father, Maximilian I, also was first heir, and was a landmark of stability.

@moonbus said
Being born into ‘The Firm’ as they call themselves, isn’t a cake walk. A normal family life isn’t possible for them, and,as others have pointed out, some members of the royal family have coped with it better than others. Edward found a role for himself and toed the line; Andrew didn’t.

Hell no!

No, I do not have any sympathy for anyone "suffering" from "rich heir syndrome".

Especially when that manifests, not in moping about on a divan as if they were Trimalchio in West Egg, but in raping teenaged girls.

That's not a symptom of being a poor little heir of a poor little rich royal family, that's evidence of being an utter excrement, personally, and on his own accord.

@the-gravedigger said
That's true but nobody asks to be born into anything.
You just have to play the cards you are dealt.

You can pick your friends.