17 Aug 09
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyI really don't know(1-5)...what do you think Bobby?
Recent Archaeological Discovery
"Recent reports from an undisclosed dig site document discovery of CWC (Cold Wet Cave), the first General Forum in the history
of mankind. Of particular interest, the findings include an archive photo of the very first thread ever posted by a CWC Member."
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will we get there? (5) Will the sun shine for our 1st Meet-Up in August?
Cromag~
17 Aug 09
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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby"you're really only here to try to foist your religious views on the innocent, aren't you??" -Blackamp
You are dead wrong once again. I do not give a good god damn about any "religion". Every last one of them since day one is manmade,
horizontal and counterfeit (man by man's efforts trying to appease and gain the approval of God). Christianity = a gift and a relationship.
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"You are dead wrong once again. I do not give a good god damn about any "religion". Every last one of them since day one is manmade,
horizontal and counterfeit (man by man's efforts trying to appease and gain the approval of God). Christianity = a gift and a relationship."
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(4) 'How will we get there?'
18 Aug 09
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby(4) 'How will we get there?'[/b]
"you're really only here to try to foist your religious views on the innocent, aren't you??" [b]-Blackamp
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"You are dead wrong once again. I do not give a good god damn about any "religion". Every last one of them since day one is manmade,
horizontal and counterfeit (man by man's efforts trying to appease and gain the ...[text shortened]... ationship."
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(4) 'How will we get there?'[/b]
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And the correct answer is... Instantaneously at the moment of flat line brain function
the human soul passes through physical death to eternity. Whether we like it and/or
approve or not, our temporal life on earth is merely the prelude for the main show.
18 Aug 09
Originally posted by Grampy Bobby(5) Will the sun shine for our 1st Meet-Up in August?
[b](4) 'How will we get there?'[/b]
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And the correct answer is... Instantaneously at the moment of flat line brain function
the human soul passes through physical death to eternity. Whether we like it and/or
approve or not, our temporal life on earth is merely the prelude for the main show.[/b]
And the answer is... Yes. The kind old sun will shine both outside
and/or inside Phlab's home on a good time in RI enjoyed by all.
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19 Aug 09
Originally posted by Grampy Bobbythere is absolutely no evidence for this, or for the existence of a soul. dogmatic assertion does not make it so.
[b](4) 'How will we get there?'[/b]
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And the correct answer is... Instantaneously at the moment of flat line brain function
the human soul passes through physical death to eternity. Whether we like it and/or
approve or not, our temporal life on earth is merely the prelude for the main show.[/b]
Descartes (who you have already decided is pitiful) believed in the existence of the soul, which he considered to be a substance of a different order to physical things, such as the body. the problem, he realised (but you don't seem to) is how then to explain how the body and soul interact. for example, how does the soul motivate the body? Descartes' solution was that they interacted in the pineal gland, partly on the basis that it didn't (at that time) seem to do anything else.
put simply, the problem is this: we know that the brain controls the body by sending out impulses through nerves, and similar mechanisms. so where does the soul fit in? does it prompt the brain to send out these impulses? if so, how? there are no reliably recorded instances of matter apart from the brain being influenced by anything other than the forces already acknowledged by physics - gravity, the electroweak force, and the strong nuclear force - and no reason to think that the matter the brain is composed of is different in kind to other matter. there simply isn't any reason to believe in a soul mysteriously making the brain send out nerve impulses. of course, there is a similar problem coming back the other way, i.e. signals from body to brain to...soul?
the problem of mind-body interaction has proven so intractable that most philosophers of mind have abandoned the position of body-soul dualism (Descartes' position), in favour of one or another physicalist theories of mind - we must look to physical causes only when explaining the operations of the brain and its control of the body.
19 Aug 09
Originally posted by Grampy Bobbya belief in God and an afterlife is a religious belief, nitwit.
"you're really only here to try to foist your religious views on the innocent, aren't you??" [b]-Blackamp
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"You are dead wrong once again. I do not give a good god damn about any "religion". Every last one of them since day one is manmade,
horizontal and counterfeit (man by man's efforts trying to appease and gain the ...[text shortened]... ationship."
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(4) 'How will we get there?'[/b]
19 Aug 09
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Originally posted by Blackamp"Atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning,
there is absolutely no evidence for this, or for the existence of a soul. dogmatic assertion does not make it so.
Descartes (who you have already decided is pitiful) believed in the existence of the soul, which he considered to be a substance of a different order to physical things, such as the body. the problem, he realised (but you don't seem to) is h ysical causes only when explaining the operations of the brain and its control of the body.
we should never have found out that it has no meaning..." -C.S. Lewis
