02 Dec 07
Originally posted by Ice ColdProduction and technology sure has improved the sound of industrial metal, that's for sure.....Rage against the Machine's first album is still a benchmark though 😛
As a metal head, I think the stuff now is better than 90% of the crap in the 80s. All the Glam rockers and hair bands. *shivver*
02 Dec 07
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Originally posted by Iron MonkeyDamn straight!
it sounds to me like you just want it delivered up for you on a plate, rather than having to go to the effort to uncover good music by actively seeking it out. .
Record companies are whining all the time that their sales are down. Well rather than blaming downloading why not put out something better than the latest American Idol contest winner CD on the radio since the record labels own the radios now????
Jebus, you'd think it was rocket science.
02 Dec 07
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundEXACTLY! I wasn't there, so maybe I didn't gain the full appreciation of that music. What makes YOU guys think you'll appreciate the music of MY generation when you're not really here to fully appreciate it?
Only by those who weren't there.
02 Dec 07
Originally posted by uzlessIt won't sell. Obviously it won't, otherwise they would do it.
Damn straight!
Record companies are whining all the time that their sales are down. Well rather than blaming downloading why not put out something better than the latest American Idol contest winner CD on the radio since the record labels own the radios now????
Jebus, you'd think it was rocket science.
02 Dec 07
Originally posted by huckleberryhoundi don't get all excited about the sub-genre classification thing, but i can't really see why you'd call RATM 'industrial'. it's more like what later de-evolved into nu-metal.
Production and technology sure has improved the sound of industrial metal, that's for sure.....Rage against the Machine's first album is still a benchmark though 😛
02 Dec 07
Originally posted by Iron MonkeyMate i was a thrasher, so any classification after 1993 kinda left me behind. I don't make any appology for not knowing how you guys classify music, so i bow to your musical knowledge. The Sex pistols are still punk, right 😉
i don't get all excited about the sub-genre classification thing, but i can't really see why you'd call RATM 'industrial'. it's more like what later de-evolved into nu-metal.
02 Dec 07
Not everything has sucked in the past 15 years (IMO), but the majority of it isn't great. It seems like the main cut off happened in 2000. Bands that I liked from the early and middle 90's (the first couple Green Day and Foo Fighter cds were good), started to go downhill.
Some of the ones I have liked more recently:
Against Me!
Alkaline Trio
Guster
Meat Puppets (they've been around since the early 80's, but still make good music)
Kings of Leon
Spoon
Beck
Cake
The White Stripes
02 Dec 07
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Originally posted by uzlessSorry to break to you, Sister of Mercy, but nothing new I listen to sounds as it did in 1995.
think his point is that after 12 yeas it's still the same. Stuff today sounds like it did back then except studio'd up. Where's the new sound?
This raises another question, which 1995 album was the last bastion of rock and roll according to badmoon?
02 Dec 07
Originally posted by darvlayParticular albums that come to mind would be Melon Collie and Jagged Little Pill.. Colbain died in 94 and a lot of the adventurous spirit left with him.
Sorry to break to you, Sister of Mercy, but nothing new I listen to sounds as it did in 1995.
This raises another question, which 1995 album was the last bastion of rock and roll according to badmoon?
My comment was based on new bands that have come around since the mid 90s. Great rock is tied to the original sounds that it came from in general - being blues, country and to some respct classical themes. Modern rock has lost it's ties to what made it great and I'm not so sure that it will ever come back. Perhaps some of these bands that some are providing as exceptions to the rule (that rule being that new rock is neither creative or played well - name great new musicians in rock) aren't even playing rock music but rather some bastardized conglomeration of techno, rap and pop.
Maybe what true rock is, certainly by my opinion, isn't being played by newer bands.